Harri wrote:I'd point out that during the winter 1941/42 there were major logistical problems in Finland which was behind the malnutrition. There were major areal differences. The situation was worst in the cities which run out of potatoes already in February/March 1942, for example in Helsinki. Those potatoes left were usualy somewhere else and due to bad transportation they froze.
Hard for me to believe that the Finns, who are accustomed to cold weather conditions failed to have facilities on hand to protect these potatoes.
Whose in charge there?
Harri wrote:My mother and father who lived in the countryside have told me they don't remember any malnutrition. But children perhaps don't remember such things and they were given all what parents have.
This is no big mystery. Generally, when the transportation system is the cause of the food shortage it is the cities that suffer not the countryside as the food is grown in the countryside.
Harri wrote:Anyway berries and mushrooms were picked all over Finland from forests during the war and still afterwards. Hunting was also important. From my point of view this yearly job seemed stupid in the 1960's and 1970's because everything could be bought from the shop. But those who had met the malnutrition continued the old habbit until they died.
Berry and mushroom picking and hunting did not occur before the war? In many lands in normal conditions people who reside in the countryside are hunters and gathers.
Harri wrote:The food rations were different for those who worked and for those who didn't which exlain part of the catastrophy.
You don't explain this or support it with evidence.
Harri wrote:For example my grandfather's brother died on tuberculosis in 1942. We still don't know where he was buried because the note on his death arrived weeks after the burial and was missed later.
This proves what? That Finns tend to mislay their dead?
Harri wrote:The lack of medicines and vitamins, not well working healthcare and the low quality of food were perhaps the main reasons for malnutrition. Many POWs were also wounded or suffered from deseases and malnutrition already before capturing. The supply of Red Army wasn't among the best in 1941 either and Soviet soldiers ate rather simple food. The "starting level" of POWs was thus very weak which sped up their fate. Finnish civilians were better fed from the start and could stand alive longer periods (some months) with worse food. As far as I known there was no dramatic changes in the dying rate of the Finnish civilians in the early 1940's.
POWs are to receive the same rations and medical care as the Detaining Power's zone of the interior soldiers. If the Soviet POWs were sick, the Finns were responsible for providing sufficient medical care to restore their health. The high death rate of Soviet soldiers is somewhat comparable to the high number of deaths among Soviet civilians in Finnish detention camps. Were the Soviet civilians in the same poor state of health as the Soviet soldiers when they went into the Finnish camps, or is there another excuse to cover this?
Harri wrote:Unlike suspected by Penn Finnish healthcare system was on a relatively good level already in the 1940's but its resources were tied for the Army which was in top priority - like also in Food supply.
I never disparaged the Finnish health care system.
Preceived "military necessity" is not an adequate excuse for not complying with the Geneva Convention. If the Soviet POW was sick, the Soviet POW should have received comparable medical care available to Finnish soldiers.
Harri wrote:Soviet POWs and Interned ones were mainly treated by Soviet medical personnel and doctors supervised by the Finns. Also their medicals were usually taken from the captured Soviet stocks.
It is fully appropriate to use Soviet medical personnel and supplies to accomplish this requirements, however, if there are any shortfalls in the care, the Detaining Power is required to make up the shortfall.
Harri wrote:It is written that the Soviet POWs who died mostly looked quite healthy until they suddenly turned dead which is typical if someone has eaten weak quality food for several months.
Who wrote that? Is that from the Finnish healthcare system?
Harri wrote:The high dying rates of the Soviet POWs have never been any secrets in Finland and this is no new information to any Finns.
Given that the Finns have known this for sometime, you would think the excuses would be more polished.
What you have offered above is a consistently unsourced, long-winded excuse.
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