A Swedish novel writer (W. Moberg) has described his teenage disappointment when he bought a copy of Kierkegaard’s “Diary of a Seducer” for his hard earned money, in expectance of some erotic titillations promised by the title….
A title like “Mr. Death” perhaps attracts or attracted misunderstanders, too? What did the “unwary” spectators expect? Scenes of death dealings, sounds of death rattlings from the archives of a “legitimate” serial killer?
Instead they got the portrait of a feeble minded blasphemer, stealing bricks from a sanctuary, being compared to a p*sser on catholic altars.
Most of the potential audience had probably never even reflected on the question if such things like the Holocaust could be questioned. The world isn’t flat, is it? So why bother about the “why” or the “how” it is round – and there can’t even be an “if” here, can there?
Then they suddenly realized that unthinkable things like that can be “proved” or “disproved”.
There is reason behind knowledge, not just…”knowing what everybody knows”!
And that “knowing” sometimes takes “daring” – the “sapere aude” of Kant has “transcendental” implications “beyond belief” even in our scientific age.
Once you are into this racket of daring to know, you inevitably come to those places where “angels fear to ‘thread’ “ (misspelling intended, for “pun’s” sake).
Only a fool would try to “dare” the dazzling abilities of Roberto on the subject of chemistry, for example. But…being a “philosopher” of the “poor” variety—what has Erik to lose? A reputation? Well, that can’t be any worse than it is around here, can it?
Roberto wrote:
What did Leuchter and Rudolf actually do?
They compared the cyanide content of material from the delousing chambers that exhibits blue staining and material from homicidal chambers that does not exhibit this staining. They showed that the blue staining on the walls of the delousing chambers could very well be a cyanide compound.
What does this prove?
According to Leuchter and Rudolf, it proves that the walls of the delousing chambers were exposed to HCN whereas the walls of the homicidal gas chambers were not.
Is this correct?
It might be if
a) The exposure of the walls of the homicidal gas chambers to HCN would necessarily lead to the formation of blue stains under the reported conditions of the gassings; and
b) There were no significant traces of HCN on any parts of the walls of the homicidal gas chambers as opposed to parts of the walls of the delousing chambers under similar conditions.
As to a):
According to a study by Alich, Howarth, and Johnson cited by Rudolf in his report, “Prussian blue” forms only at very high concentrations of CN- ions, which means that too much humidity will “spoil” the reaction that leads to the formation of “Prussian blue”. There are reasons to assume that the concentration of such ions was much lower in the homicidal gas chambers than in the delousing chambers. First of all, the level of humidity in the former is likely to have been higher at the outset due to perspiration and exhalation from the tightly-packed victims. Second, due to the absorption of most of the HCN by the lungs of the fast-breathing victims the concentration of HCN liable to form “Prussian blue” in reaction with the existing moisture was much lower than in the delousing facilities. Third, the homicidal gas chambers were hosed down after each gassing, either before or after the bodies had been moved to the cremation room proper or to a morgue-like room adjacent to the gassing room that some of the crematoria seem to have had. This is confirmed by several witnesses: Henry Tauber, Filip Müller, Dr. Miklos Nyszili, Daniel Bennahmias, Szlama Dragon. The resulting dilution would have reduced the concentration of CN- ions far below the minimum necessary for the formation of “Prussian blue”.
Prussian blue formation is extremely sensitive to concentration and also to pH. Very small effects could tip the balance between whether Prussian blue forms or not. Alich et al. found a strong pH dependence to the reaction. The presence of human beings in the gas chambers could also help tip the balance. CO2 is an acid anhydride and there would have been a lot of it in the homicidal chambers. An acid anhydride is a substance that increases the acidity of a solution when it becomes solvated. Even atmospheric concentrations of CO2 (at 360 ppm today, about 330 ppm then) are sufficient to cause pure rain water to have a pH of 5.6. Human beings exhale about 4% CO2, so the pH could be quite a bit lower. For example at 2% CO2 the pH would be below 4.8. Low pH inhibits the reaction. Additionally, a lower pH will drive the HCN from solution, making the CN- more dilute at the outset.
The above shows that formation of “Prussian blue” in buildings exposed to HCN is by no means a must. Markiewicz et al.(see below) were not able to produce such pigments in experiments with HCN and building materials. Additionally, Rudolf did an experiment in which he exposed a brick to HCN and yet found no detectable level of cyanides within the sensitivity of his analytical method. These failures to produce Prussian blue are sufficient to demonstrate that its formation at detectable levels is not a necessary result of exposure to HCN.
Leuchter’s and Rudolf’s theories have therefore failed on the first count.
This can be compared to Roberto’s arithmetics of Treblinka.
It can be proved mathematically that the few acres there can harbor the remains of almost any number of victims, when you take into consideration the facilities of the Blobel system of “spontaneous combustion” of exhumed corpses, plus the excavators and stone crushers provided by the Treblinka I quarry, all in the service of the “Enterdungsaktion”.
The same applies to the mass graves from the murders of the Police Battalions in Eastern Europe. The mass graves described by Bruns (Riga), Gräbe(Dubno etc), von Bussche (Dubno witness, too) can contain any amount of victims, since their depths are unknown, and the proceedings described by the Jäger report of marching thousands of Jews towards those graves they had to dig themselves, can be postulated from the cooperation of a Jewish “death wish”, together with a Nazi “realm of madness”.
The crematoria of Auschwitz and elsewhere can take care of all and any number of corpses, using the same kind(?) of mathematics.
Roberto(ex Medorjurgen) and Xanthro described the respective math of it at the old pub3.ezboard forum on the thread “ A Facetious Post about Crematoria”, initiated by Mr. Mills.
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fskalmanforumfr ... 41&stop=60
The lack of Prussian Blue on the walls of an alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz, using Zyklon B as a death gas, can be explained by the attraction of the HCN by the humid bodies of the victims as compared to the bricks in the walls and roof and floor.
>>“Prussian blue” forms only at very high concentrations of CN- ions, which means that too much humidity will “spoil” the reaction that leads to the formation of “Prussian blue”.<<
I.e., too much humidity hinders high concentrations of CN-ions.
Since my knowledge of the effects of humidity on CN-ions has much to be humble about it, I cannot with the best “revisionist” ill will in the world pronounce a Bunchian: “No it doesn’t!” and let it rest at that.
Just in order to illustrate the tribulations presented by the facilities of the Internet to the searcher of Truth (or deniers’ drivel, if you like!), I will quote the “rich man’s Leuchter”, an engineer “for real” :
The amount of HCN to be absorbed by the walls does not only depend on the concentration of HCN in the air, but also on the temperature of the walls, their water content and their material.
a. Cold, damp walls, as were to be expected in the underground morgues of Crema II and III, have a tendency of absorbing ten times as much HCN then warm, dry walls, as for example the interior walls of the delousing facilities BW 5a and BW 5b in Birkenau.[62]
(see link below.)
Compare Roberto above:
>>There are reasons to assume that the concentration of such ions was much lower in the homicidal gas chambers than in the delousing chambers. First of all, the level of humidity in the former is likely to have been higher at the outset due to perspiration and exhalation from the tightly-packed victims.<<
Can the lower concentration of such ions thanks to the higher humidity be compensated and even overruled by the “tendency of absorbing” of the walls, thanks to the same?
Roberto wrote:
>>CO2 is an acid anhydride and there would have been a lot of it in the homicidal chambers. An acid anhydride is a substance that increases the acidity of a solution when it becomes solvated.<<
The cement plaster used in the morgues has a much higher tendency to accumulate HCN than the lime plaster used in the delousing facilities, and this tendency prevails longer as cement mortar and plaster stays alkaline for many months and years, whereas lime mortar become neutral relatively quickly (in weeks rather than months, depending on temperature, humidity, amount of CO2 available and on the consistency of the mortar.)[63]
Would the probable higher amount of CO2 in the homicidal chambers described by Roberto be compensated and even overruled by the “much higher tendency” of “cement plaster” to “accumulate HCN”?
Roberto wrote:
>>The above shows that formation of “Prussian blue” in buildings exposed to HCN is by no means a must. Markiewicz et al.(see below) were not able to produce such pigments in experiments with HCN and building materials. Additionally, Rudolf did an experiment in which he exposed a brick to HCN and yet found no detectable level of cyanides within the sensitivity of his analytical method. These failures to produce Prussian blue are sufficient to demonstrate that its formation at detectable levels is not a necessary result of exposure to HCN.
Leuchter’s and Rudolf’s theories have therefore failed on the first count.<<
But at least one of them doesn’t agree:
In fact, the tendency of the walls of morgue 1 in Crema II to absorb HCN were much higher than that in the delousing facilities. There the walls were on ground level, the rooms were heated, and they were built of cheap lime mortar. Most likely, this increased tendency to absorb HCN would have compensated the somewhat shorter time of exposure of the morgues 1 ('gas chamber'). Nevertheless, analysis results of a sample taken from of the certainly warm and dry interior wall of this room yielded some 2900,0 mg cyanide per kg sample material (see my sample #12,
http://www.vho.org/D/rga/rudolf.html), but the samples taken from the alleged 'gas chamber' still don't yield any result that could be interpreted.
http://vho.org/GB/c/GR/RudolfOnVanPelt.html
Who knows?