Irma Grese at Birkenau
Irma Grese at Birkenau
Please could somebody pinpoint for me exactly where Irma Grese worked in Birkenau...i have read that it was in Lager C, the part of Birkenau occupied by Polish Jewish women, and later by Hungarians, but exactly where was this?
Thanks, Mark.
Thanks, Mark.
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
From March 1943, Grese worked in Lager A and Lager B of Auschwitz-Birkenau, in May 1944 she was moved to Lager C (women's camp), and by the end of that year to the main camp Auschwitz I.
Source:
Claudia Taake (1998): Angeklagt. SS-Frauen vor Gericht.
If I'm not misinterpreting things, Lager C was located at the south end of Auschwitz II, which was used as Durchgangslager (transit camp) in the context of the Ungarn-Aktion. Consequently, it held mainly (Hungarian) Jewesses.
Source (map):
http://www.spiegel.de/flash/0,5532,10090,00.html
Source:
Claudia Taake (1998): Angeklagt. SS-Frauen vor Gericht.
If I'm not misinterpreting things, Lager C was located at the south end of Auschwitz II, which was used as Durchgangslager (transit camp) in the context of the Ungarn-Aktion. Consequently, it held mainly (Hungarian) Jewesses.
Source (map):
http://www.spiegel.de/flash/0,5532,10090,00.html
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
Hello friends!
Irma Grese worked in Lager C (section BII C), as display the yellow rectangle in the map.
At that time of Irma Grese the field was the Hungarian Jewish women's section.
Best regards,
Marius
Irma Grese worked in Lager C (section BII C), as display the yellow rectangle in the map.
At that time of Irma Grese the field was the Hungarian Jewish women's section.
Best regards,
Marius
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
That's very interesting, Marius. Thanks for posting.
I have always thought that A, B, and C corresponded to the construction stages of Auschwitz II, i. e., northern section (first stage, A; the right part of your map), middle part (second stage, B), southern part (third stage, C; the left part of the map).
So, is it correct that Lager C was the women's camp, but that the (female) Hungarian Jews were kept in Lager B?
I have always thought that A, B, and C corresponded to the construction stages of Auschwitz II, i. e., northern section (first stage, A; the right part of your map), middle part (second stage, B), southern part (third stage, C; the left part of the map).
So, is it correct that Lager C was the women's camp, but that the (female) Hungarian Jews were kept in Lager B?
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
Hello Grisu!
I am not the most recommended person to approach this subject.
I know the following:
Auschwiz I was "Lager A" and Auschwitz-Birkenau it was "Lager B".
The reference "Lager C" provokes a lot of confusion. In fact, this Lager C, in Birkenau, was
the BII C Section.
Auschwitz-Birkenau it was divided in several sections, such as:
Woman's Camp, divide in "BI A" and "BI B" Sections .
The "BII" Section was divided in:
"BII A" Sectionera Quarantine Camp.
"BII B" Section was Family Camp.
"BII C" Section was Hungarian Womans Camp (it was in this section that Irma Grese worked).
"BII D" Section was Mans Camp.
"BII E" Section was Gypsy Camp.
"BII F" Section was Prisoners Hospital.
"BII G" Section was the Storage.
Finally the "BIII" Section known as "Canada".
In March o1945 Irma Grese it was transferred of the Ravensbrück concentration camp for "Lager A", in other words, Auschwitz I, where it executed several duties, even to be transferred for "Lager B", Auschwitz-Birkenau, where, starting from May 1944, it drove the "BII C" Section (here denominated Lager C). On January 1, 1945 it was transferred again for Auschwitz I where stayed for two weeks when it was transferred for Ravensbrück.
This website show the historical of the Auschwitz compound:
http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/h/index.php? ... mitstart=3
I wait to have contributed to some elucidation.
Best regards,
Marius
I am not the most recommended person to approach this subject.
I know the following:
Auschwiz I was "Lager A" and Auschwitz-Birkenau it was "Lager B".
The reference "Lager C" provokes a lot of confusion. In fact, this Lager C, in Birkenau, was
the BII C Section.
Auschwitz-Birkenau it was divided in several sections, such as:
Woman's Camp, divide in "BI A" and "BI B" Sections .
The "BII" Section was divided in:
"BII A" Sectionera Quarantine Camp.
"BII B" Section was Family Camp.
"BII C" Section was Hungarian Womans Camp (it was in this section that Irma Grese worked).
"BII D" Section was Mans Camp.
"BII E" Section was Gypsy Camp.
"BII F" Section was Prisoners Hospital.
"BII G" Section was the Storage.
Finally the "BIII" Section known as "Canada".
In March o1945 Irma Grese it was transferred of the Ravensbrück concentration camp for "Lager A", in other words, Auschwitz I, where it executed several duties, even to be transferred for "Lager B", Auschwitz-Birkenau, where, starting from May 1944, it drove the "BII C" Section (here denominated Lager C). On January 1, 1945 it was transferred again for Auschwitz I where stayed for two weeks when it was transferred for Ravensbrück.
This website show the historical of the Auschwitz compound:
http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/h/index.php? ... mitstart=3
I wait to have contributed to some elucidation.
Best regards,
Marius
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
Marius and Grisu, now you can see why i was confused!! It is a very confusing subject. Thank you to both of you for your contributions.
Regards, Mark.
Regards, Mark.
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
Thank you, Marius. Quite illuminative, indeed.
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Just a minor correction:Marius wrote:[...]
"BII G" Section was the Storage.
Finally the "BIII" Section known as "Canada".
[...]
Best regards,
Marius
B II G was the storage, known as "Canada"
B III was the section called "Mexiko"
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
Could you please provide a source?
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
Sure Grisu, sorry that I forgot to mention:
Auschwitz - faschistisches Vernichtungslager, 3. erweiterte u. verbesserte Auflage, Verlag Interpress - Warschau:
Drawing of Auschwitz II Camp, between page 16 -17
Bildalbum Auschwitz, Verlag Ksiazka i Wiedza, Warschau:
blueprint of Auschwitz II known as Birkenau on page 49
Both books I bought at the former Auschwitz I - Camp at the bookshop. These are just 2 examples, I also own many others of the books published by PMO (Panstwowe Muzeum Oswiecim). Primarly in german but partialy in polish as the translated books are allways more expensive.
Auschwitz - faschistisches Vernichtungslager, 3. erweiterte u. verbesserte Auflage, Verlag Interpress - Warschau:
Drawing of Auschwitz II Camp, between page 16 -17
Bildalbum Auschwitz, Verlag Ksiazka i Wiedza, Warschau:
blueprint of Auschwitz II known as Birkenau on page 49
Both books I bought at the former Auschwitz I - Camp at the bookshop. These are just 2 examples, I also own many others of the books published by PMO (Panstwowe Muzeum Oswiecim). Primarly in german but partialy in polish as the translated books are allways more expensive.
Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
Thanks a lot, much appreciated.
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Source: http://pl.auschwitz.org.pl/h/index.php? ... mitstart=2W grudniu 1943 r. uruchomiono w ostatnim sektorze tego odcinka (BIIg) kompleks magazynów, przeznaczonych głównie do składowania i segregacji bagażu skonfiskowanego masowym transportom żydowskim (Kanada II).
Translation:
In december 1943 starts the last part of this construction section the magazines (BIIg) to work, the main target was the storage and segregation of confiscated properties from the jewish mass transports (Kanada II)
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Re: Irma Grese at Birkenau
Sorry in what date she was transferred to Bergen Belsen Camp?
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Birkenau today, unfortunately there is no more the barracks of the section C.
Where slept Irma Grese and the others SS personal? in that section? or another place?
Where slept Irma Grese and the others SS personal? in that section? or another place?
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Hello history1!
The picture below, part inferior, display SS Barracks Area, where Irma Grese lived, together with the other SS personel.
Best regards,
Marius
I really made a mistake. Thank you very much for the correction.history1 wrote:Just a minor correction:Marius wrote:[...]
"BII G" Section was the Storage.
Finally the "BIII" Section known as "Canada".
[...]
Best regards,
Marius
B II G was the storage, known as "Canada"
B III was the section called "Mexiko"
The picture below, part inferior, display SS Barracks Area, where Irma Grese lived, together with the other SS personel.
Best regards,
Marius