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Post by Ponury » 02 Aug 2017, 23:06

http://www.deathcamps.org/sabba/pic/bigtroops.jpg

This truck on the left is also available on other Risser di San Sabba pictures.

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Post by michael mills » 03 Aug 2017, 05:44

Are the troops in the photo SS? One of them seems to have an SS collar patch, but the collar patches of the others look more like Wehrmacht.


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Post by Ponury » 03 Aug 2017, 11:59

It is possible that WH supported the SS in the crimes committed in the area. In Poland it was very common, starting from 1939 WH was absolutely spotless.

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Post by Tom3277 » 03 Aug 2017, 21:14

michael mills wrote:Are the troops in the photo SS? One of them seems to have an SS collar patch, but the collar patches of the others look more like Wehrmacht.
Hello Michael and Ponury,

The "Wehrmacht" soldier are actually Trawniki attached to the Aktion Reinhard and later to Abteilung R wearing the peculiar uniform.
As said by Stefano earlier you would eventually find all the answers to your questions about the uniforms (with around 30 pages dedicated to the uniform topic containing also close ups of the ones worn by Trawniki) and about the armoured trucks of the former Abt. R in our book "Globocnik's Men".

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Post by Tom3277 » 15 Aug 2017, 11:02

Tom3277 wrote:
michael mills wrote:Are the troops in the photo SS? One of them seems to have an SS collar patch, but the collar patches of the others look more like Wehrmacht.
Hello Michael and Ponury,

The "Wehrmacht" soldier are actually Trawniki attached to the Aktion Reinhard and later to Abteilung R wearing the peculiar uniform.
As said by Stefano earlier you would eventually find all the answers to your questions about the uniforms (with around 30 pages dedicated to the uniform topic containing also close ups of the ones worn by Trawniki) and about the armoured trucks of the former Abt. R in our book "Globocnik's Men".

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We've just realized that maybe Michael Mills was referring to the soldiers wearing the Ordnungspolizei collar litzen; those are not Wehrmacht too but they are the peculiar - probably non textbook and locally produced - Ordnungspolizei uniforms supplied to most of the Abteilung R men at the arrival in Italy.
Looking for the Soldbuch of Hptw.d.SchP. Kurt Etowski.

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Post by Shambles51 » 11 Aug 2018, 12:01

Does anyone know if there are any post war photos of Willi Mentz? The only ones that I have seen are blurred or from a distance. I knowthis question has been asked before, but am hoping a decent photo may have surfaced since then. Any help would be appreciated

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Post by trespasser07 » 27 Sep 2018, 12:35

There should be mug shots available for all the trial defendants avaliable somewhere (early 60’s)
"We believe in what we do!" - written in Friedrich Rainer's Guestbook by Odilo Globocnik in April 1943.

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Post by trespasser07 » 01 Sep 2021, 11:13

https://youtu.be/SRgPuY-uWak

Treblinka guards and press reporters arriving at trial in video above not sure who is who as they step off the prison bus and also when in the dock due to face coverings.
"We believe in what we do!" - written in Friedrich Rainer's Guestbook by Odilo Globocnik in April 1943.

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Post by Ponury » 12 Sep 2021, 20:24

Dziękuję za film. Ale cwaniaki, swoimi kopiami - fragmentami akt sobie zasłonili twarze :)

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Post by Puck » 05 May 2023, 11:11

john h wrote:
29 Feb 2012, 22:59
Wagner, Gustav Franz
SS–Oberscharführer
SS Number – 276 962

Born on the 18th July 1911 in Vienna. Joined the NSDAP – member number 443,217. Served at Hartheim euthanasia centre. Posted to Sobibor death camp in April 1942, he remained there right to the end.

Wagner was the most feared SS-man in Sobibor, he was called Welfel (Wolf), for a good reason. He hunted and killed many Jews, he had an explosive temper

He mercilessly beat prisoners, he shot prisoners for the slightest infraction, and selected prisoners on the ramp for work commandos. He was absent from the death camp on the 14th October 1943, and the prisoners timed their revolt to coincide with his absence.

After the war escaped to Brasil, but in May 1978, he was discovered by Simon Wiesenthal – the Nazi Hunter. He was imprisoned but his extradition to Germany and Israel failed, and he committed suicide in October 1980, in mysterious circumstances.
in SS-BBl from 25.07.1938 - "Verlust SS-Ausweis"
SS-Scharführer Wagner, Gustav (SS #276962) member 2/42.SS-Standarte (Berlin)

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Post by Ponury » 06 May 2023, 21:35

Were the circumstances mysterious? He was finally threatened with real -time extradition, he would answer for his crimes. Well, he could not stand the pressure and kill himself ...

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Post by Blueberry » 30 Jun 2023, 12:56

Hello.
I was interested in your post about Fritz Jirmann. I am interested in regional history and would like to write a few sentences about this man for the local anthology.
I had have some information but I would like to ask how do you know he was married? Please, Could you please provide me with some further information or the source of this report.
Don't be mad, I'm new here. I could not send you a private message.
I apologize for my poor English.
Thank you very much in advance for any reply.
Best regards

Blueberry

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29 Feb 2012, 22:41


Jirmann, Fritz
SS – Haupscharfuhrer
SS Number

Born on the 11th January 1914 in Barldorf, Braunau. Belonged to the 318 SS Fuhrungshauptamt 3 Stabkorps. Jirmann was a brutal SS officer in Belzec who spoke to the new arrivals that first they had to take a shower, before going onto a Labour Camp.

Jirmann was a specialist in executing old people and children, and was one of the most feared SS men in the camp according to survivor Rudolf Reder.

Jirmann was shot and accidentally killed by Heinrich Gley in an incident with two Ukrainian guards, at the punishment bunker opposite the Kommandantur on the 1st March 1943, although his death certificate is dated July, which enabled his widow to obtain more money.

He was buried in Tomaszow Lubelski, but in 1995 his remains were moved by the Germans, to a military cemetery in Przemysl.


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Post by Georg_S » 30 Jun 2023, 13:07

Blueberry wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 12:56
Hello.
I was interested in your post about Fritz Jirmann. I am interested in regional history and would like to write a few sentences about this man for the local anthology.
I had have some information but I would like to ask how do you know he was married? Please, Could you please provide me with some further information or the source of this report.
Don't be mad, I'm new here. I could not send you a private message.
I apologize for my poor English.
Thank you very much in advance for any reply.
Best regards

Blueberry

john h wrote:
29 Feb 2012, 22:41


Jirmann, Fritz
SS – Haupscharfuhrer
SS Number

Born on the 11th January 1914 in Barldorf, Braunau. Belonged to the 318 SS Fuhrungshauptamt 3 Stabkorps. Jirmann was a brutal SS officer in Belzec who spoke to the new arrivals that first they had to take a shower, before going onto a Labour Camp.

Jirmann was a specialist in executing old people and children, and was one of the most feared SS men in the camp according to survivor Rudolf Reder.

Jirmann was shot and accidentally killed by Heinrich Gley in an incident with two Ukrainian guards, at the punishment bunker opposite the Kommandantur on the 1st March 1943, although his death certificate is dated July, which enabled his widow to obtain more money.

He was buried in Tomaszow Lubelski, but in 1995 his remains were moved by the Germans, to a military cemetery in Przemysl.

Hello and welcome :welcome: dont worry about your English its good 😊👍

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Post by Blueberry » 30 Jun 2023, 13:32

Hello Georg,
thanks.
Blueberry

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