Revisionists vs. Belivers

[Scott Smith]

As far as I know the only Thoughtcrime in the Bundestablishment is Denial of the Nuremberg trials and their take on the Holocaust. In any case, if a democracy is not actually a hypocrisy, freedom-of-speech must be respected.

[Allison Webster]

In any case, if a democracy is not actually a hypocrisy, freedom-of-speech must be respected.

I totally agree that freedom of speech is very important

[Roberto]

As far as I know the only Thoughtcrime in the Bundestablishment is Denial of the Nuremberg trials and their take on the Holocaust. In any case, if a democracy is not actually a hypocrisy, freedom-of-speech must be respected.

Considering the Reverend’s obvious obsession with “Thoughtcrimes Laws”, his knowledge of what those laws actually look like is woefully scarce.

The wording of the most infamous provision of the Strafgesetzbuch, introduced in 1994 if I well remember, is the following:

Siebenter Abschnitt: Straftaten gegen die öffentliche Ordnung

StGB § 130 Volksverhetzung

[…]

3) Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer eine unter der Herrschaft des Nationalsozialismus begangene Handlung der in § 220a Abs. 1 bezeichneten Art in einer Weise, die geeignet ist, den öffentlichen Frieden zu stören, öffentlich oder in einer Versammlung billigt, leugnet oder verharmlost.

[…]

My translation:

Seventh Section: Crimes Against the Public Order

StGB § 130 Incitement of Popular Hatred

[…]

3) Who publicly or in a meeting approves of, denies or plays down an action of the kind described in § 220a paragraph 1 [Genocide] committed under the rule of National Socialism in such a way that is likely to disturb the public peace, will be punished with imprisonment up to five years or a fine.

[…]

Emphasis is mine.

Got the picture now, Reverend?

In any case, if a democracy is not actually a hypocrisy, freedom-of-speech must be respected.

Restrictions of freedom of speech are incompatible with democracy, but they don’t make democracy into a hypocrisy.

[Scott Smith]

Considering the Reverend’s obvious obsession with “Thoughtcrimes Laws”, his knowledge of what those laws actually look like is woefully scarce.

I know that Toben did six months in jail when he visited Germany merely for running a Revisionist website in Australia. And Rudolf remains in exile and in hiding or he would be in jail for his Rudolf Report. Sorry, but you are trying to defend the indefensible, Roberto. Thoughtcrimes laws are the death rattle of democratic values.
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[Roberto]

Considering the Reverend’s obvious obsession with “Thoughtcrimes Laws”, his knowledge of what those laws actually look like is woefully scarce.

I know that Toben did six months in jail when he visited Germany merely for running a Revisionist website in Australia. And Rudolf remains in exile and in hiding or he would be in jail for his Rudolf Report. Sorry, but you are trying to defend the indefensible, Roberto. Thoughtcrimes laws are the death rattle of democratic values.
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What am I defending, Reverend? The fact that I consider it silly hyperbole to give misguided public order provisions an Orwellian dimension does not mean that I support such provisions. As you very well know.

Democracy, despite many flaws, is alive and kicking - however much some would like to see a Führer replacing it.

[Scott Smith]

What am I defending, Reverend? The fact that I consider it silly hyperbole to give misguided public order provisions an Orwellian dimension does not mean that I support such provisions. As you very well know.

Democracy, despite many flaws, is alive and kicking - however much some would like to see a Führer replacing it.

Well, I guess billions-and-billions, as Carl Sagan would say, is protecting an investment in dollars that could be considered silly hyperbole. Or not?

[Roberto]

What am I defending, Reverend? The fact that I consider it silly hyperbole to give misguided public order provisions an Orwellian dimension does not mean that I support such provisions. As you very well know.

Democracy, despite many flaws, is alive and kicking - however much some would like to see a Führer replacing it.

Well, I guess billions-and-billions, as Carl Sagan would say, is protecting an investment in dollars that could be considered silly hyperbole. Or not?

A guess worth even less than other silly hyperboles and nonsensical assertions the Reverend keeps throwing around. And that is saying something.

[Scott Smith]

No DOLLAR$ involved? Really...

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[Roberto]

No DOLLAR$ involved? Really...

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The frustrated Reverend's nonsense is becoming even more unintelligible than it usually is. The poor fellow should get some rest.

[Scott Smith]

The frustrated Reverend's nonsense is becoming even more unintelligible than it usually is. The poor fellow should get some rest.

Thanks for the concern. I'm playing hooky today because I've got a bug. Believe me, if I could sleep right now I would be.

[Roberto]

The frustrated Reverend's nonsense is becoming even more unintelligible than it usually is. The poor fellow should get some rest.

Thanks for the concern. I'm playing hooky today because I've got a bug. Believe me, if I could sleep right now I would be.

Get better soon, pal. Don't let the bug beat you.

http://www.sovietarmy.com/documents/afghan-medical.html

[Martin Månsson]

This has gone downhill.

Martin
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