Red Army rape row

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snpol
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Re: Red Army rape row

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Post by snpol » 29 Aug 2021, 22:09

It seems to me that I have found where the claim about rape of Hannelore Renner (Kohl) appeared for the first time.
It is an article in Die Tageszeitung published 3 August 2001, less than a month after her suicide.
https://taz.de/!1158735/
Andrew Gimson wrote
Hannelore konnte sich an Mütter erinnern, die sich weigerten, ihre erfrorenen Kinder loszulassen. Sie erinnerte sich an den Geruch von verbranntem Fleisch während der Bombenangriffe. Als die Russen kamen, sah sie Vergewaltigungen von Frauen und deutete an, dass auch sie vergewaltigt wurde. Über Monate hinweg war sie als Flüchtling auf ihrer beschwerlichen Reise Richtung Westen zum Rhein unterwegs.
Automatic translation gives
Hannelore could remember mothers who refused to let go of their frozen children. She remembered the smell of burned meat during the bombing raids. When the Russians came, she saw women raped and indicated that she was raped too. For months she was a refugee on her arduous journey west to the Rhine.

snpol
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Re: Red Army rape row

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Post by snpol » 30 Aug 2021, 10:24

Let's look at Wikipedia.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannelore ... ite_note-4
With reference to the primary source it is claimed that
Am 5. Mai 1945, wenige Tage vor dem Kriegsende, flohen die zwölfjährige Hannelore und ihre Mutter mit dem Handkarren zunächst nach Taucha, von dort zusammen mit dem Vater nach Westdeutschland und erreichten im Juli 1945 Mutterstadt im heutigen Rheinland-Pfalz.
Automatic translation gives
On May 5, 1945, a few days before the end of the war, twelve-year-old Hannelore and her mother fled with the handcart, first to Taucha, from there together with their father to West Germany and in July 1945 they reached Mutterstadt in what is now Rheinland-Pfalz.
Taucha is a suburb of Leipzig. So 5 May Hannelore Renner (Kohl) and her Mother left the city of Döbeln.
Now let's look where US and Soviet troops had been that time.
https://www.saechsische.de/plus/zwische ... 85552.html
In Döbeln ist vom Feind noch nichts zu sehen. Nur jenseits der Zschopau sind Patrouillen der Amerikaner im Waldheimer, Harthaer und Leisniger Raum unterwegs. Am 20. April wird Reinsdorf besetzt, zwei Scheunen werden durch Beschuss zerstört.
Automatic translation gives
In Döbeln there is still nothing to be seen of the enemy. American patrols in the Waldheimer, Harthaer and Leisniger area are only on the other side of the Zschopau. Reinsdorf is occupied on April 20, two barns are destroyed by shelling.
So 20 April US troops were within 10 km from Döbeln (Waldheim is 10km to SW). So Hannelore with her Mother were able to reach US controlled territory within 2-3-4 hours.
They left Döbeln 5 May
Am 6. Mai stehen die Russen vor Döbeln, nachdem es bei Ostrau noch Kämpfe gegeben hatte.
On May 6, the Russians stand in front of Döbeln after fighting at Ostrau.

Ostrau is 10 km to NE from Döbeln.

So unlikely Hannelore and her Mother seen Soviet soldiers.


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