Jewish Death Squads - suspected victims?

[CogCalgary]

Originally the pows were German soldiers.Later on for some reason it was decided that Jews would be placed into the pow population alongside the Germans.In a now vanished internet page,one of the Jewish internees said that when they first arrived at the camp,the Germans all gathered and began to sing The blood of the Jew upon my sword,believe I have that correct.
Anyhow,if you try to find info on the deaths of German pows in Canada,the majority of the deaths are not attributed to this camp.The graves were moved to a memorial along with another Ontario logging camp and placed in a memorial.If you examine the other camps in Canada there were very few deaths and they are documented.But not Ripples or the northern Ontario camp.

What was the cause of death in most cases regarding the mortality in Canadian Prisoner of War Camps for German Soldiers?

So why would the Jewish Prisoners start killing German Prisoners?

Except for one case in Western Canada iirc,there are no listed cause of death.Obviously there was a great deal for Jewish internees to be upset about regarding German soldiers.These were fighting age men in a country with no food shortages in a not overly populated region.Did Jewish men kill them and the guards looked the other way or did the guards kill them at the urging of the Jews?We don't know how they met their end but it could be the source of lore.Recently there was book on Canadian held axis pows and the author claimed there was only one death in Canada.One of my Scout masters was with our Scout Leader and doing a great deal of talking and gestulating there ,he was a Croatian I believe,about 50 at that time.I was trying to listen in they kept moving away.Some of the older guys were taking pics of the two graveyards.

[LAstry]

Message Number 5 little grey rabbit wrote:
A death notice was printed in the Linz and Vienna papers in 1954 - allegedly from Reuters, London, that an SS Oberscharfuehrer Wolfgang Bauer had been killed in the Salzkammergut Mountains near Linz by a Jewish Death squad in 1946. It appeared in the Oberoesterrische Zeitung. On the Sassen tapes Eichmann claimed to have read about this while still in Germany in 1946, but according to the footnotes Stangneth wasn't able to locate any reports from this time.

I think this answers messages 88 and 97....

[CogCalgary]

Message Number 5 little grey rabbit wrote:
A death notice was printed in the Linz and Vienna papers in 1954 - allegedly from Reuters, London, that an SS Oberscharfuehrer Wolfgang Bauer had been killed in the Salzkammergut Mountains near Linz by a Jewish Death squad in 1946. It appeared in the Oberoesterrische Zeitung. On the Sassen tapes Eichmann claimed to have read about this while still in Germany in 1946, but according to the footnotes Stangneth wasn't able to locate any reports from this time.

I think this answers messages 88 and 97....

Was this man implicated in any specific war crimes?

[historygeek2021]

The Jewish people do not have "death squads", nor are Nazi criminals who were brought to justice "victims". "Death squad" is a term used to describe the SS Einsatzgruppen who committed the mass murder of Jews throughout the eastern occupied territories. To apply this term to Jews who brought Nazi criminals to justice is blatantly anti-Semitic.

[CogCalgary]

The Jewish people do not have "death squads", nor are Nazi criminals who were brought to justice "victims". "Death squad" is a term used to describe the SS Einsatzgruppen who committed the mass murder of Jews throughout the eastern occupied territories. To apply this term to Jews who brought Nazi criminals to justice is blatantly anti-Semitic.

Correct.They were hit squads.

[LAstry]

https://mynewbrunswick.ca/internment-camp-b70/

[LAstry]

As regarding thos e members of SS/War Criminals killed in Hiding by JDS....I only come across two names definately stated...to have died this way

from German Wikipedia
SS Hauptsturmführer Hans Gaier Born 19 February 1902 Mannheim Germany. (SA-Obersturmbannführer); was also Police Hauptmann (Polizeidirektor) der Schutzpolizei Kielce Poland. Declared Legally dead in May 1954; ironically according to German Wikipedia while hiding under a false name in Graz, Austria Gaier was executed May/June 1945.

from Message # 107
SS Oberscharfuehrer Wolfgang Bauer had been killed in the Salzkammergut Mountains near Linz by a Jewish Death squad in 1946.

Interestingly it appears the JDS was only stationed in Austria/Germany for about a month ...so the History Chennel on the JDS reporteding about 33 names on a hit list.. does seem to confirm a relatively small number were executed not the "dozens" or the reports of many more ,,,,,on this tyhread

[Totenkomf]

As regarding thos e members of SS/War Criminals killed in Hiding by JDS....I only come across two names definately stated...to have died this way

from German Wikipedia
SS Hauptsturmführer Hans Gaier Born 19 February 1902 Mannheim Germany. (SA-Obersturmbannführer); was also Police Hauptmann (Polizeidirektor) der Schutzpolizei Kielce Poland. Declared Legally dead in May 1954; ironically according to German Wikipedia while hiding under a false name in Graz, Austria Gaier was executed May/June 1945.

from Message # 107
SS Oberscharfuehrer Wolfgang Bauer had been killed in the Salzkammergut Mountains near Linz by a Jewish Death squad in 1946.

Interestingly it appears the JDS was only stationed in Austria/Germany for about a month ...so the History Chennel on the JDS reporteding about 33 names on a hit list.. does seem to confirm a relatively small number were executed not the "dozens" or the reports of many more ,,,,,on this tyhread

Do you know why were these men murdered?, had they committed any war crimes?.

[George_W]

As far i know Hans Gaier was responsible for the crimes committed during the liquidation the ghetto at Kielce.

George

[Totenkomf]

As far i know Hans Gaier was responsible for the crimes committed during the liquidation the ghetto at Kielce.

George

I see..
Gaier was shot by some Jewish Brigade Soldier named Peltz. Seemingly he could kill unarmed Gaier just like that.

[COmentator]

there has always been estimates of how many executions were made..from dozens to hundreds...only one time have I ever come accross a definate number...it was a History Channel program of Jewish Avengers in postwar Germany/Austria/{Ialy[?} the number given was 33..I remember this number becuase it was so low..consereing the Armies of AH Followers who tried so hard to carry out the Fuhrer Will {Military and Civilian] tis a pity no names were ever released...it would have prevented NAzi Hunters from going on wild goose chases after Nazis who are very dead....

[COmentator]

British POW Camps in Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun_and ... _in_Africa

[CogCalgary]

Originally the pows were German soldiers.Later on for some reason it was decided that Jews would be placed into the pow population alongside the Germans.In a now vanished internet page,one of the Jewish internees said that when they first arrived at the camp,the Germans all gathered and began to sing The blood of the Jew upon my sword,believe I have that correct.
Anyhow,if you try to find info on the deaths of German pows in Canada,the majority of the deaths are not attributed to this camp.The graves were moved to a memorial along with another Ontario logging camp and placed in a memorial.If you examine the other camps in Canada there were very few deaths and they are documented.But not Ripples or the northern Ontario camp.

What was the cause of death in most cases regarding the mortality in Canadian Prisoner of War Camps for German Soldiers?

So why would the Jewish Prisoners start killing German Prisoners?

I don't believe the Jewish inmates killed the pows.One story about the camp was that the guards were illiterate.They needed the German pows to read their correspondence. I mentioned this to an acquaintance from New Brunswick.
His quick response was that if they couldn't read then they couldn't write anything down either.

[CogCalgary]

British POW Camps in Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun_and ... _in_Africa

Asmara is where the camps were administered from.Radio Marina,the best radio station on the planet,made it possible to communicate directly with all the camps.