Jewish Death Squads - suspected victims?

[UMachine]

Exactly wm.Yes little grey rabbit I could name the man,but why bother?Nothing would ever be proven.The accent issue is ridiculous,we don't have a sound bite.They were strange to an Italian man.

[4thskorpion]

A former Jewish member (hiding his identity as an a "Aryan Pole") of the Polish Armia Krajowa or "Home Army" talks to author Anna Bikont about exacting revenge on the Polish killers of his friend, Kadysz:

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Source: THE CRIME AND THE SILENCE: Confronting the Massacre of Jews in Wartime Jedwabne page 306.

[wm]

A nice example of creative storytelling but it didn't happen. A lone wolf serial killer (and a stranger) was hardly possible in a close knit community like Polish village.

The seeking revenge Jews generally joined the Soviet secret police, Polish secret police or Milicja to do what they wanted to do.
A primary example is of course Salomon Morel, who as a commander of a Polish labour camp for Germans murder over 1500 of them - with some help from his Jewish and Polish friends.

[4thskorpion]

When a Jew tells about his experience it is "story telling" but when a Pole tells about his experiences it is not " story telling". But I think your comment is indicative of your own prejudices as evidenced across multiple threads concerning Polish Jewish experiences.

[wm]

I'm confused. I'm saying that man is not a serial killer, you are saying he is. it's not nice to judge people on so little evidence. People are telling "creative" stories all the time.

[4thskorpion]

Awigdor admitted exacting revenge on the Polish killers of his friend.

Please retread the quotation from Anna Bikont, it should not be that confusing. Apart from your laughable mention where did anyone else say Awigdor was a serial killer?

[UMachine]

Apart from the truly high profile targets i tend to believe that most of these events were simply opportunistic in the aftermath of the war.

In the instance I provided,it would seem the two men were privy to some manner of files.The Allies went through everything with a fine tooth comb.He was removed from a former concentration camp POW population in Germany by the British.By boat to Freetown,placed on a smaller boat to an unidentified location in a Nigerian POW camp for Italians in the middle of a swamp.He escaped,was recaptured and on to a different locale.

It turns out this word was somewhat common,possibly originating as an American word about 1860-1865.I originally believed it to be a slightly illiterate Italian translation to English.

"Shootist".

[wm]

Please retread the quotation from Anna Bikont, it should not be that confusing. Apart from your laughable mention where did anyone else say Awigdor was a serial killer?

It was: the persecutors outnumbered him, I will take revenge, I found that village and stayed there for over a month, I had done [that].

So he went there and killed a bunch of random people as he had no means to find the identity of those persecutors.
And even if, he had no right to kill people even guilty ones, and vengeance is aggravating circumstance.
Especially that shortly after the WW2 tens of thousands cases like that were tried in court and lots of people were sent to prison or to met their maker as result.

He was removed from a former concentration camp POW population in Germany by the British.

The British sent an Italian concentration camp survivor to a POW camp. Not nice.

[UMachine]

Sorry.The man was a POW in an unknown former concentration camp.He was a wss soldier.The British picked him up and shipped him to Nigeria,a camp for Italian pows.A death camp.

[4thskorpion]

Please retread the quotation from Anna Bikont, it should not be that confusing. Apart from your laughable mention where did anyone else say Awigdor was a serial killer?

It was: the persecutors outnumbered him, I will take revenge, I found that village and stayed there for over a month, I had done [that].

So he went there and killed a bunch of random people as he had no means to find the identity of those persecutors.
And even if, he had no right to kill people even guilty ones, and vengeance is aggravating circumstance.
Especially that shortly after the WW2 tens of thousands cases like that were tried in court and lots of people were sent to prison or to met their maker as result.

You misread the text and speculate again! Maybe the Polish copy of Anna Bikont's book which you said you have might be less confusing?

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[4thskorpion]

The British picked him up and shipped him to Nigeria,a camp for Italian pows. A death camp.

A death camp in NIgeria for Italian PoWs ?????

[wm]

This is because of British food. But I'm sure UMachine used it figuratively...

Sorry.The man was a POW in an unknown former concentration camp.He was a wss soldier.The British picked him up and shipped him to Nigeria,a camp for Italian pows.A death camp.

A soldier couldn't be sent to concentration camp as a prisoner. It's a war crime. The Germans didn't do that even to the Poles or the Polish Jews.
He had been stripped of his POW status and then sent to the camp. Or he simply was in a POW camp located near a concentration camp.

But still, in 1945 Italy was an ally of the British, so why the British weren't nice to that man. Something fishy here.

You misread the text and speculate again! Maybe the Polish copy of Anna Bikont's book which you said you have might be less confusing?

Well, he spent a month in that village - doing what?

[4thskorpion]

This is because of British food. But I'm sure UMachine used it figuratively...

Sorry.The man was a POW in an unknown former concentration camp.He was a wss soldier.The British picked him up and shipped him to Nigeria,a camp for Italian pows.A death camp.

A soldier couldn't be sent to concentration camp as a prisoner. It's a war crime. The Germans didn't do that even to the Poles or the Polish Jews.
He had been stripped of his POW status and then sent to the camp.

wm, you should know hundreds of Allied PoWs were sent at Auschwitz!

Auschwitz was... a concentration camp. Yes...No?

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Above: British PoW football team at Auschwitz.

The regime of the POWs at Auschwitz was not significantly different from those elsewhere. They received Red Cross parcels and, nominally at least, had the protection of the Geneva Convention, but they had to endure the freezing temperatures of the Polish winter and witnessed the extraordinary suffering of the Jewish inmates.

Revealed: the British troops imprisoned at Auschwitz

You misread the text and speculate again! Maybe the Polish copy of Anna Bikont's book which you said you have might be less confusing?

Well, he spent a month in that village - doing what?

Well, doing what he said he did "taking revenge".

[wm]

wm, you should know hundreds of Allied PoWs were sent at Auschwitz!

As POWs, not prisoners of Auschwitz KL. Big difference.

Well, doing what he said he did "taking revenge".

Pissing into their wells? A "creative" story, nothing more.

[UMachine]

The British picked him up and shipped him to Nigeria,a camp for Italian pows. A death camp.

A death camp in NIgeria for Italian PoWs ?????

That is correct.A DEATH CAMP.

Soldiers were sent there to get sick and die.Simple.Don't feed them much.At night pack them together in wooden sheds.Thet get sick and die.

Montgomery apparently mentioned an SS Island in a radio broadcast.My bet is that this was the place.