Allegations against Dr. Aribert Heim

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Allegations against Dr. Aribert Heim

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Post by David1819 » 27 Nov 2018, 21:04

I was looking into the subject of Dr Aribert Heim after watching a TV documentary about someone trying to catch him.
To my surprise there seems to be little or no credible first hand evidence to support what had been claimed.

The claim that he removed organs without anaesthetic and used a human skull as a paper weight sounds rather dubious.

According to the book "The Eternal Nazi: From Mauthausen to Cairo, the Relentless Pursuit of SS Doctor Aribert Heim
" His defence lawyer summed up the claims up as follows -

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Post by wm » 27 Nov 2018, 21:21

The paperweight claim is of course nonsense I used a human skull as a paperweight too but generally, people need their organs to survive so removing them isn't that dubious.


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Post by David Thompson » 29 Nov 2018, 07:31

David1819 -- Do you have the original allegations to post here, so our readers can assess the defense lawyer's claims? His account may be self-promotional or self-interested.

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Post by David1819 » 21 Dec 2018, 14:09

David Thompson wrote:
29 Nov 2018, 07:31
David1819 -- Do you have the original allegations to post here, so our readers can assess the defense lawyer's claims? His account may be self-promotional or self-interested.
Unfortunatley no. I cannot read German and I am assuming the the documents filed in court will be German also?

Hopefully someone who can read German can bring something forward?

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Post by wm » 05 Jan 2019, 22:31

KZ Mauthausen was a special KL, it was much harder to survive there than in for example Auschwitz.

I think if the survivals remembered a random SS-functionary, who was there just several weeks and visited only the hospital (where the patients weren't expected to survive so post-war witnesses were scarce) it wasn't without a reason.

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Post by history1 » 07 Jan 2019, 14:36

wm wrote:
27 Nov 2018, 21:21
[...] people need their organs to survive so removing them isn't that dubious.
It´s more than that, it´s very doubtful. You obviously has never attended a surgery (with narcotics!) nor any experience with emergency medicine.

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Post by reedwh52 » 07 Jan 2019, 17:06

One note. The comments of Dr Heim's attorney have little or no historical value and can not be considered a reputable evidentiary source.

The attorney is an advocate for Dr Heim and is required to attempt to refute any allegations against his client.

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Post by history1 » 07 Jan 2019, 17:42

wm wrote:
05 Jan 2019, 22:31
KZ Mauthausen was a special KL, it was much harder to survive there than in for example Auschwitz.
Really? In Mauthausen including all it´s subcamps 90 000 inmates perished, while in Auschwitz we are talking about 1.1 million victims.
wm wrote:
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I think if the survivals remembered a random SS-functionary [...]
Well, Holocaust survivors also claimed/testified at court that they got selected at the Auschwitz ramp by Mengele when he evidently was not there.
And the USHMM respectively the Shoa Foundation is publishing survivor testimonies with such errors and does not make the audience aware about!

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Post by wm » 08 Jan 2019, 07:33

history1 wrote:
07 Jan 2019, 17:42
Really? In Mauthausen including all it´s subcamps 90 000 inmates perished, while in Auschwitz we are talking about 1.1 million victims.
Auschwitz was partially a death camp, its non-death camp parts were vastly better than Mauthausen and the associated Gusen.
Prisoners from Auschwitz sent to Mauthausen/Gusen frequently declared they were ready to return to Auschwitz on all fours if needed.
See Stanisław Grzesiuk Pięć lat kacetu for examples of that.

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Post by David Thompson » 08 Jan 2019, 19:48

For interested readers -- See the documents posted at:

Documents on Nazi Concentration Camp Mortality Rates
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Now let's get back on topic -- the allegations against Dr. Aribert Heim.

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Post by Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 09 Jan 2019, 02:55

I do not know if he is in this book, but will rapid read it thisweek and let you know if thert eis a small paragraph or other of him..The 186 Steps authored byChristian Bernadac,the history of Mauthausen...and the sub camps in the region. I have the complete so called series written by Mr.Bernadac with Ferni Publishing House 1974=1978

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