Did any Nazis oppose the final solution?

[Gorque]

I beg to differ:

According to the evidence given at the Sobibor/Bolender trial, at least 10,000 Jews from Germany and Austria found their death in Sobibor in the months of April, May, and June, 1942. <2> Some of these transports were sent directly to the death camp. A report dated June 20, 1942, from the commander of the Nr. 152 police precinct of Vienna, describes the deportation of a transport of Austrian Jews directly to Sobibor:

The transport commando consisted of Lieutenant Fischman as commander, two sergeants and thirteen policemen of the "First Police Reserve Company East ..." The embarkation of the Jews to the freight cars of the allocated "Special Train" at the station of Aspang started at 12:00 hours under the command of SS Hauptsturmführer Brunner and SS Hauptscharführer Girzik from the [local] `Main Office for the Deportation of Jews' and went smoothly.

"At that time the transport commando assumed the guard duty. All together, 1,000 Jews were deported.

"The DA-38 train left Vienna on June 14, 1942, at 19:08 and crossed Brno, Neisse, Oppeln, Czestochowa, Kielce, Radom, Deblin, Lublin, Chelm to Sobibor and not, as expected, to Izbica. The arrival at Sobibor was on June 17, 1942, at 8:15. At the station of Lublin, where we arrived on June 16, 1942 at 19:00 hours, SS Obersturmführer Pohl was waiting, and he ordered that fifty-one able Jews between the ages of fifteen and fifty disembark and be brought to a labor camp.... At that time he gave an order that the remaining 949 Jews were to be taken to Sobibor. The

• , three freight cars [with food], and 100,000 zloty were handed over to the SS Obersturmführer Pohl in Lublin. At 23:00 we left Lublin for Sobibor. In the Jewish camp of Trawniki, 30km before Lublin, we handed over the three freight cars with food and luggage to SS Scharführer Mayerhofer.
  
  "The train arrived at 8:15 on June 17 at the labor camp, which was close to the Sobibor station, where the camp commander, Overleutnant Stangl, received the 949 Jews. The disembarkation began immediately and was completed at 9:15. The departure from Sobibor to Lublin with the 'special train' followed immediately after the unloading of the Jews, at 10:00."

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/th ... erman-jews

Then of course there was the fate of the trainload of German Jews sent to Riga and met their fate at Rumbula. While not a Vernichtungslager per se, the result was the same.

[wm]

Yes, there was a case when the Jews were executed without the "waiting period" (at Riga) - probably by mistake, as Mr. Mills likes to argue.
And later, the last remaining German Jews and generally Jews from Western Europe were sent directly to death camps.

But it changes nothing - neither the "later" Jews nor the people who deported them were aware of their fate.
Testimonies of Jews working in death camps and Polish rail workers invariably are in agreement on this.
Such trains (better than the ones for the Polish Jews, frequently passenger trains) were full of Jews unaware of their fate.
And full of all their possessions and wealth.
That happened as late as the summer of 1944.

[Gorque]

Klemperer's diary's state otherwise. While they may not have known of their destination, his retellings of their trepidations were numerous.

Forgive me for stating the following without providing a source, but the railway workers knew where the trains were going and had a good idea of the fate that awaited the deportees.

[wm]

Railway workers delivering the trains to camps on the final leg of the journey knew.
The initial crews, transporting the Jews, didn't take part in it and knew nothing.

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi wm,

"The initial crews, transporting the Jews, didn't take part in it and knew nothing.".....you presume.

Cheers,

Sid.

[wm]

Even the last-mile-Germans, who drove the trains into the death camps, saw nothing and weren't eyewitnesses.

It seems you don't understand how perfect the system was.
Only the dozen or so Germans, a few hundred former Soviet POVs who guard the camp, and about a thousand Jews who operated the camp knew what was going on.

Nobody outside the camps needed to know anything and didn't know anything except rumors. All they were told was the Jews were sent to the East for security reasons and to work there.

[ljadw]

The Allies knew of the existence of the camps and of the activities of the Einsatzgruppen. So did people in Hungary,Slovakia,Belarus, France, etc ..
Thus the German public also knew it .