Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

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Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by henryk » 11 Aug 2023 21:09

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Polish war cemetery memorial plaque removed in Belarus’ Grodno
Polish Radio English Section 11.08.2023 13:00

A memorial plaque in Polish, commemorating the fallen Polish soldiers who fought against the Bolsheviks in 1920 and defended the city against the Soviets in 1939, has been removed from the war cemetery in the Belarusian city of Grodno.

Grodno military cemetery.Photo: Shutterstock/Damian Czajka

As reported by the Belarusian opposition magazine, Novy Czas, on Friday, the removal of the plaque was claimed by Volha Bondarova, a Belarusian government-linked activist, who boasted about her two-year struggle to take it down.

Last December, the desecration of the Katyń Cross was reported by Marek Zaniewski, Deputy Chairman of the Union of Poles in Belarus. The cross serves as a reminder of Polish and Belarusian officers who fell victim to the NKVD's brutality in the Katyń massacre of 1940. The incident unfolded within the same cemetery in Grodno.

The cemetery has become a recurring site of such occurrences, reflecting a trend of Polish memorials facing devastation in Belarus over the past eighteen months. Reports emerged in September last year of the desecration of a mass grave of Home Army soldiers in Plebaniszki, a mere 20 kilometers away from Grodno.

Earlier in 2022, it was reported that the burial and memorial sites of Polish soldiers in Jodkowicze, Mikuliszki, Volkovysk, Kaczyce, Stryivka, Surkontsy and Sandovce were razed.

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Re: Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by LAstryAGAIN » 05 Sep 2023 05:35

Hatred is trying to tear the Polish heart apart

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Re: Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by ljadw » 05 Sep 2023 06:39

Is there any reason for the presence after 100 years of Polish memorials in a country that is not a part of Poland ?
And, were there any Belarusian officers in 1939 ? Afaics Grodno was a part of Poland ( following Belarus :occupied by Poland since 1920 ) in 1939 .
If Poland is removing Soviet memorials on its territory, why should Belarus not have the right to remove Polish memorials on its territory ?
For Poland the Soviets were invaders and occupiers, for Belarus the Poles were invaders and occupiers .

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Re: Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by LineDoggie » 05 Sep 2023 16:05

ljadw wrote:
05 Sep 2023 06:39
Is there any reason for the presence after 100 years of Polish memorials in a country that is not a part of Poland ?
And, were there any Belarusian officers in 1939 ? Afaics Grodno was a part of Poland ( following Belarus :occupied by Poland since 1920 ) in 1939 .
If Poland is removing Soviet memorials on its territory, why should Belarus not have the right to remove Polish memorials on its territory ?
For Poland the Soviets were invaders and occupiers, for Belarus the Poles were invaders and occupiers .
Was Belarus Occupied by a Polish garrison who brutally controlled the area for 50+ years? no, by a soviet one

Is Belarus equally removing Soviet memorials since they ALSO occupied the nation after 1922?

Or is it to appease modern ruling tyrants in moscow?
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Re: Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by ljadw » 05 Sep 2023 20:39

a big part of what today is Belarus was between the two WWs occupied by Poland .
And, foreigners can not say to Belarus that if they remove Polish memorials, they should also remove Soviet memorials :only the regime of Belarus has the right to decide which memorials it can remove in its own country .
The hostility of Belarus against Poland is also caused by the Polish collaboration with the anti Belarus measures from the rulers of the European Community .
Belarus is not a part of the European Community and thus the European Community has no business with what is happening in Belarus .
That the EC dislikes the regime of Belarus is totally irrelevant, because Belarus is NOT a colony of the European Community .
Does Belarus protest because Poland is removing Soviet memorials ?
NO : Belarus does not interfere in the domestic policy of Poland .
If Belarus is appeasing the Kremlin is not the business of Poland .

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Re: Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by LineDoggie » 05 Sep 2023 20:43

ljadw wrote:
05 Sep 2023 20:39
a big part of what today is Belarus was between the two WWs occupied by Poland .
And, foreigners can not say to Belarus that if they remove Polish memorials, they should also remove Soviet memorials :only the regime of Belarus has the right to decide which memorials it can remove in its own country .
The hostility of Belarus against Poland is also caused by the Polish collaboration with the anti Belarus measures from the rulers of the European Community .
Belarus is not a part of the European Community and thus the European Community has no business with what is happening in Belarus .
That the EC dislikes the regime of Belarus is totally irrelevant, because Belarus is NOT a colony of the European Community .
Does Belarus protest because Poland is removing Soviet memorials ?
NO : Belarus does not interfere in the domestic policy of Poland .
If Belarus is appeasing the Kremlin is not the business of Poland .
Belarus is a hand puppet for russia today. the russian fist inside it.
"There are two kinds of people who are staying on this beach: those who are dead and those who are going to die. Now let’s get the hell out of here".
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Re: Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by ljadw » 05 Sep 2023 21:09

LineDoggie wrote:
05 Sep 2023 20:43
ljadw wrote:
05 Sep 2023 20:39
a big part of what today is Belarus was between the two WWs occupied by Poland .
And, foreigners can not say to Belarus that if they remove Polish memorials, they should also remove Soviet memorials :only the regime of Belarus has the right to decide which memorials it can remove in its own country .
The hostility of Belarus against Poland is also caused by the Polish collaboration with the anti Belarus measures from the rulers of the European Community .
Belarus is not a part of the European Community and thus the European Community has no business with what is happening in Belarus .
That the EC dislikes the regime of Belarus is totally irrelevant, because Belarus is NOT a colony of the European Community .
Does Belarus protest because Poland is removing Soviet memorials ?
NO : Belarus does not interfere in the domestic policy of Poland .
If Belarus is appeasing the Kremlin is not the business of Poland .
Belarus is a hand puppet for russia today. the russian fist inside it.
And who is responsible for this ?
It is the EU who did not accept the regime of Belarus in 2020 and took colonialist,imperialist and racist measures against Belarus and who pushed Belarus in the camp of Russia .
Belarus is only reacting .
Belarus did not take the first steps : it did not remove Polish memorials in the past .
The EU does not accept the existence of Belarus as it exist today and is using all means to transform Belarus in a liberal democracy, something the people of Belarus refuses .

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Re: Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by LineDoggie » 05 Sep 2023 21:24

ljadw wrote:
05 Sep 2023 21:09

And who is responsible for this ?
Belarus of course
ljadw wrote:
05 Sep 2023 21:09

Belarus is only reacting .
like the puppets of russia they are
ljadw wrote:
05 Sep 2023 21:09

Belarus did not take the first steps : it did not remove Polish memorials in the past .
The EU does not accept the existence of Belarus as it exist today and is using all means to transform Belarus in a liberal democracy, something the people of Belarus refuses .
So because of the EU belarus remove memorials to those murdered by russians at Katyn is your pathetic excuse?

sad russian puppets no wonder the russian does not respect belarus and treats it like a pet
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Re: Belarus Continues Desecrating Polish War Graves

Post by ljadw » 06 Sep 2023 07:09

Reality is that in the past Belarus was neutral and that it has become a Russian ally only because of the attempts from the EU to eliminate Lukachensko .
Why did Belarus not remove in the past the memorials of the victims NOT of the Russians but of the Soviets ?
The EU has pushed Belarus in the camp of Putin ,while Belarus tried to remain neutral : til 2020 Belarus was not an ally/puppet of Russia but remained neutral : the responsible for the change in the attitude of Belarus is the EU who imposed sanctions on Belarus BEFORE Putin invaded Ukraine .
Poland was hostile to Belarus already before the war in Ukraine, Russia was not hostile to Belarus ,thus there is no reason to whine if Belarus is now an ally of Putin .
Before WW2 the liberals in the West have pushed Mussolini in the camp of Hitler , now they have done the same with Belarus .

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