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Post by Roberto » 24 Jun 2002 22:00

R. J. Kimmel wrote:Roberto... I just have two questions for you.
Is your German citizenship your primary one?
It's my only one right now. Colombian citizenship of a descendant of foreign nationals requires a domicile inside Colombia, which I don't have any more.
R. J. Kimmel wrote:If so, whey then do you feel that the retrobution should continue?
What is it that you call "retrobution"? If you mean compensation to victims of National Socialist persecution, have a look at this side kindly provided
by our friend Meyer:

http://eng.bundesregierung.de/top/dokum ... 5&script=0

It tells you all you may want to know, in my opinion.

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SPAMKÖNIG...

Post by Scott Smith » 25 Jun 2002 04:21

Roberto, your obfuscatory tactic of using wide-format posts is becoming intolerable. You know how you can fix this. I'm giving you a fair opportunity to do so.
:wink:

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Post by Roberto » 25 Jun 2002 12:17

Scott Smith wrote:Roberto, your obfuscatory tactic of using wide-format posts is becoming intolerable. You know how you can fix this. I'm giving you a fair opportunity to do so.
:wink:
Me and "obfuscatory tactic". Reverend?

Your paranoia seems to be getting out of hand.

Have you run out of carpets to chew on?

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Post by Scott Smith » 25 Jun 2002 12:20

Roberto wrote:
Scott Smith wrote:Roberto, your obfuscatory tactic of using wide-format posts is becoming intolerable. You know how you can fix this. I'm giving you a fair opportunity to do so.
:wink:
Me and "obfuscatory tactic". Reverend?

Your paranoia seems to be getting out of hand.

Have you run out of carpets to chew on?
Well, are you going to edit the offending posts or not?
:?

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Post by Roberto » 25 Jun 2002 12:28

Scott Smith wrote:
Roberto wrote:
Scott Smith wrote:Roberto, your obfuscatory tactic of using wide-format posts is becoming intolerable. You know how you can fix this. I'm giving you a fair opportunity to do so.
:wink:
Me and "obfuscatory tactic". Reverend?

Your paranoia seems to be getting out of hand.

Have you run out of carpets to chew on?
Well, are you going to edit the offending posts or not?
:?
If there are any "offending posts", I'll wait for the moderators editing them or telling me to do so.

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Post by Scott Smith » 25 Jun 2002 12:33

Roberto wrote:
Scott Smith wrote:
Roberto wrote:
Scott Smith wrote:Roberto, your obfuscatory tactic of using wide-format posts is becoming intolerable. You know how you can fix this. I'm giving you a fair opportunity to do so.
:wink:
Me and "obfuscatory tactic". Reverend?

Your paranoia seems to be getting out of hand.

Have you run out of carpets to chew on?
Well, are you going to edit the offending posts or not?
:?
If there are any "offending posts", I'll wait for the moderators editing them or telling me to do so.
I'm not complaining about the content--just the widescreen aspect. And you seem to always be the culprit. So why can't you be a sweety and just fix it? It renders the entire page unreadable.
:roll:

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Post by Roberto » 25 Jun 2002 12:41

Scott Smith wrote:
Roberto wrote:
Scott Smith wrote:
Roberto wrote:
Scott Smith wrote:Roberto, your obfuscatory tactic of using wide-format posts is becoming intolerable. You know how you can fix this. I'm giving you a fair opportunity to do so.
:wink:
Me and "obfuscatory tactic". Reverend?

Your paranoia seems to be getting out of hand.

Have you run out of carpets to chew on?
Well, are you going to edit the offending posts or not?
:?
If there are any "offending posts", I'll wait for the moderators editing them or telling me to do so.
I'm not complaining about the content--just the widescreen aspect. And you seem to always be the culprit. So why can't you be a sweety and just fix it? It renders the entire page unreadable.
:roll:
As I said, I'll await the moderators instructions.

Assuming that it has anything to do with my posts, that is, and that Smith is not just airing his understandable frustration by fussing around.

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Re: SPAMKÖNIG...

Post by Scott Smith » 25 Jun 2002 12:47

Roberto wrote:As I said, I'll await the moderators instructions.

Assuming that it has anything to do with my posts, that is, and that Smith is not just airing his understandable frustration by fussing around.
Okay, I've asked him to look into it so I'll be patient. If you're not the culprit I'll apologize.

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Post by R. J. Kimmel » 25 Jun 2002 13:28

Roberto... I figured this would be your cop out. In other words, you're not German, but simply hold a citizenship...!

I don't wish to read someone elses opinion on retrobution... I asked for yours...!

In your responses, you seem to have nothing original to say, you simply quote others, their writings and opinions. Even the various Jewish groups don't march in lockstep in their opinions of exactly what may have taken place.

RJK

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Post by Roberto » 25 Jun 2002 13:39

R. J. Kimmel wrote:Roberto... I figured this would be your cop out. In other words, you're not German, but simply hold a citizenship...!
It's not just a matter of nationality, but also of cultural background.
R. J. Kimmel wrote:I don't wish to read someone elses opinion on retrobution... I asked for yours...!
Easy. Compensation there should be - and there will be - until the last rightful claimant under the Bundesentschädigungsgesetz is dead.
R. J. Kimmel wrote:In your responses, you seem to have nothing original to say, you simply quote others, their writings and opinions.
I'll leave that to the judgment of our audience. Anyway, I'm here to provide information, not to show how smart I am.
R. J. Kimmel wrote: Even the various Jewish groups don't march in lockstep in their opinions of exactly what may have taken place.
Who cares about the "various Jewish groups", whatever you mean by that? I care about the findings of criminal justice authorities and historians. The latter, I'm sure, disagree on a number of details. But I don't think there's any disagreement as to the fact that the Nazi regime committed mass murder on a rarely equaled scale. Only ideologically motivated propagandists profess to have "doubts" about this.

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Post by R. J. Kimmel » 25 Jun 2002 14:19

Roberto... still coping out...

Mostly those writing about the BIG 'H" are either of Jewish descent or influenced by them. Have you read the book Hitler's Children? If not, you should. In it the children of prominent Nazi officials... Goering etc. denounce what their parents allegedly were a part of, yet these same children never objected to reaping the benefits during the wartime period. After reading this book I have concluded that they were influenced in some way by Jewish groups, either financially or other to be interviewed and to express these opinions.

RJK

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Post by Roberto » 25 Jun 2002 16:55

R. J. Kimmel wrote:Roberto... still coping out...

Mostly those writing about the BIG 'H" are either of Jewish descent or influenced by them.
Nothing wrong with that, as long as they are objective and thorough researchers like Reitlinger and Hilberg.

Pressac, van Pelt, Browning, Gerlach, Longerich and other renowned historians aren't Jewish, however, as far as I know.

I dare say there are at least as many non-Jews as Jews addressing the topic these days.
R. J. Kimmel wrote: Have you read the book Hitler's Children? If not, you should. In it the children of prominent Nazi officials... Goering etc. denounce what their parents allegedly were a part of, yet these same children never objected to reaping the benefits during the wartime period. After reading this book I have concluded that they were influenced in some way by Jewish groups, either financially or other to be interviewed and to express these opinions.
Not being obsessed with "Jewish influence" as my friend RJ obviously is, I'd blame their attitude on opportunism and/or belated recognition of what their old folks were all about. And then, what benefits did little Edda Göring consciously reap as a child during the wartime period?
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Post by R. J. Kimmel » 25 Jun 2002 17:12

Roberto... It's obvious that this subject will never be resolved, however I do have something for thought. When there are no longer NAZI war criminals to hunt through natural attrition, who will be next? Possibly you simply because you hold German citizenship? or, possibly I because I was born of German parents and grandparents? Certainly, they won't let all of this just pass into history. Jewish organizations have been trying for years to have David Irving and his books banned... Gee, book banning sounds familiar. Could this be reverse Nazism? The pot calling the kettle black?

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Post by Roberto » 25 Jun 2002 17:48

R. J. Kimmel wrote:Roberto... It's obvious that this subject will never be resolved, however I do have something for thought. When there are no longer NAZI war criminals to hunt through natural attrition, who will be next? Possibly you simply because you hold German citizenship? or, possibly I because I was born of German parents and grandparents? Certainly, they won't let all of this just pass into history. Jewish organizations have been trying for years to have David Irving and his books banned... Gee, book banning sounds familiar. Could this be reverse Nazism? The pot calling the kettle black?

RJK
You seem to suffer from persecution mania, my friend.

I suggest you go and see a good psychiatrist (preferably not Jewish).

And don't forget to check behind each door for those crooked-nosed enemies of Gentiles in general and Germany in particular.

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Post by Tarpon27 » 25 Jun 2002 18:01

Just for informational purposes...

[On requesting that he be sworn as a witness with his family bible at the David Irving libel trial...]
"Of course," says the judge, who turns to van Pelt. "It is in English, is it? Or Dutch?"

"It is in German, " says van Pelt, who is then duly sworn. Since no one enquires further, nothing emerges now or later during the trial to disturb the impression of a Dutch architectural historian whose interest in the Holocaust is purely academic. But van Pelt's family bible is the famous translation of the Tanach by Martin Buber and Franz Rosenzweig. Published in Germany three years after Hitler came to power, it is the monument of a culture, and a people, whose extinction is the subject of this trail.

The bible, van Pelt will tell me afterwards, belonged to his grandfather and had accompanied the family when they went into hiding from the Nazis. "What virtually no one knew," he added, "was that when I was on the stand I had in my pocket my grandmother's yellow star, and right in front of me on the lectern the last two letters of her brother Robert Hanf, who was killed in Auschwitz in 1944. I was named after him."
_The Holocaust on Trial_, D.D. Guttenplan, ISBN 0-393-02044-4, pp. 162-63

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Mark

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