Beheadings in the Third Reich

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

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Post by alanlee » 03 Aug 2017, 07:05

My question is, Whether prison authority has take a photo or not after executive has done ? If yes, where is these photo and who has kept these pictures ? Thanks.

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

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Post by Pete26 » 04 Aug 2017, 03:34

alanlee wrote:I believed since Sophie Scholl is girl, so prison provided her a good service, as said, to let her as first person to dead, otherwise, you will witness blood all round the room, which is so horrible. Do you agree?
They used a water hose to clean up after each execution. There would be no blood visible to the next victim, except maybe for acrid smell of blood, which would still pervade the room.


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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

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Post by Pete26 » 04 Aug 2017, 03:39

alanlee wrote:My question is, Whether prison authority has take a photo or not after executive has done ? If yes, where is these photo and who has kept these pictures ? Thanks.
No, photos were not taken of beheaded bodies or severed heads after each beheading. However, in the years before the Third Reich beheading was still the most common form of execution in Germany and plaster death masks were sometimes made of the face of the deceased following the execution. In my recent post about execution of Fritz (Fiete) Schulze with an axe, it is mentioned that such a mask was made after his death.

It is possible that some photographs were taken of beheaded bodies or severed heads after an execution, but this was not required and certainly was not done for prison record purposes. We have only seen photographs of such bodies and heads after allied armies entered the anatomical institutions, such as in Gdansk (Danzig), Poland, where many beheaded bodies were taken after execution.
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Beheaded on their birthday

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Post by Pete26 » 04 Aug 2017, 03:46

I have come across two cases of two women beheaded on their birthday. They were Olga Bancic and Anna Muzik.

Olga Bancic was beheaded by guillotine in Stuttgart on her 32nd birthday (10 May 1944) and Anna Muzik was beheaded by guillotine in Vienna on her 52nd birthday (29 September 1943).

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Olga Bancic (10 May 1912 - 10 May 1944)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... Bancic.jpg

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Anna Muzik (29 September 1891 - 29 September 1943)

http://www.doew.at/cms/images/f1s26/def ... k-Anna.png

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Jakob Fuchs

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Glassworker Jakob Fuchs was guillotined at Vienna Regional Court on 26 April 1944.
Der Glasarbeiter Jakob Fuchs betätigte sich als Werber und Kassier in einer Betriebszelle der Roten Hilfe in der Glasfabrik Brunn am Gebirge. Er wurde am 15. 2. 1944 vom Volksgerichtshof wegen "Vorbereitung zum Hochverrat" zum Tode verurteilt und am 26. 4. 1944 im Landesgericht Wien hingerichtet.
https://www.doew.at/cms/download/164r4/ ... umente.pdf
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Jakob Doff

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Post by Pete26 » 06 Aug 2017, 04:23

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Jakob Doff was guillotined at Vienna Regional Court on 2 December 1942.
Der Bergarbeiter Jakob Doff aus Fohnsdorf (Steiermark), bereits vor 1938 einige Monate wegen kommunistischer Betätigung in Haft, baute in Fohnsdorf ab 1939 wieder die Rote Hilfe (Unterstützung von Angehörigen inhaftierter KommunistInnen) auf und verbreitete kommunistische Flugschriften. Er wurde am 1. August 1942 vom Volksgerichtshof zum Tode verurteilt und am 2. Dezember 1942 im Landesgericht Wien hingerichtet.
https://www.doew.at/cms/download/30c28/ ... 1_0001.pdf
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Viktor Suppan

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Post by Pete26 » 06 Aug 2017, 04:32

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Viktor Suppan was guillotined at Vienna Regional Court on 7 October 1942.
Viktor Suppan aus Köflach (Steiermark) zahlte Beiträge für die kommunistische Rote Hilfe (Unterstützung der Angehörigen verhafteter KommunistInnen) und übernahm 1940 die Leitung der Ortsgruppe in Köflach. Er wurde im Juli 1941 festgenommen und am 29. Juli 1942 vom Volksgerichtshof zum Tode verurteilt. Am 7. Oktober 1942 wurde Suppan im Wiener Landesgericht hingerichtet.

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Konrad Gutleber

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Konrad Gutleber was guillotined at Vienna Regional Court on 14 July 1943.
Der Gärtnergehilfe Konrad Gutleber war am Aufbau der kommunistischen Widerstandsorganisation in Hainburg a. d. Donau (NÖ) führend beteiligt. Er wurde am 30. 1. 1942 festgenommen und am 27. 2. 1943 vom Volksgerichtshof wegen "Vorbereitung zum Hochverrat" zum Tode verurteilt. Am 14. 7. 1943 wurde Konrad Gutleber im Landesgericht Wien hingerichtet.
https://www.doew.at/cms/download/1046o/ ... konrad.pdf

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

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Post by fredric » 09 Aug 2017, 05:37

alanlee wrote:My question is, Whether prison authority has take a photo or not after executive has done ? If yes, where is these photo and who has kept these pictures ? Thanks.
No photographs or motion pictures documenting fallbeil executions during the NZ have surfaced. Both were absolutely forbidden. Considering the presence of RMJ personnel from State Prosecutors to prison guards as well as a physician and at one time, clergy, it is doubtful anyone could get away with taking a photo.

We cannot rule out the possibility some clandestine photos were taken after the executions. None have been found to date. A scharfrichter or his helpers
probably would not risk taken a quick photo. They would loose their lucrative jobs and probably be punished.
Anatomical institute people were, for the most part, not allowed to witness executions. I have never seen a photo of the dissection
of beheaded bodies in German anatomical labs either.

Official civilian witnesses, once a group made up of twelve selected citizens of good standing, were issued "entry cards" but not allowed to
carry cameras. Cameras at Plotzensee are mentioned in one fiction novel but that is myth.

Look at the Mannhardt (from Breslau) now in Kiev Museum. A sign opposite it in a case reads "execution place...photography forbidden" but
we cannot link this for sure to this fallbeil.

The photos of the heads and headless bodies at Danzig Anatomical Institute were taken by a writer who accompanied a Soviet inspection
team. The photographs were staged for propoganda effect and motion picture footage was also taken. This is all available on various
websites.

Photographs of the Bavarian fallbeil and execution teams were taken, some prior to an execution. So we do have photos of Kisslinger,
Xavier Reichhart and Johann Reichhart with the Munich Mannhardt. Photographs of executions from this period were either destroyed or
never allowed.

We have two late 19th century photos of an axe beheading which are on this site.

The above is quite contrary to the many photos taken of guillotine executions in France. The history of that and many photos are on the
Bois de Justice site.

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Frieda Lehmann

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Post by Pete26 » 14 Aug 2017, 05:09

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Frieda Lehmann (top of the photo) was sentenced to death and guillotined in Dresden in 1947 for a double murder. Her bones were displayed until 1990 in the German Hygiene Museum in Dresden, then they disappeared.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Hygiene_Museum
Mit dem ersten Fall führt Kotte zurück in die dunkelste Zeit Dresdens, in den Winter 1946. Die schnell als „Schlächterin von der Talstraße“ berüchtigte Kriegswitwe Frieda Lehmann hatte in ihrer Wohnung eine Arbeitskollegin erstochen - weil sie deren Mantel begehrte. Auch den kleinen Sohn des Opfers brachte die Frau um, zerstückelte die Leichen in ihrer Küche, verteilte sie in der Neustadt; im Alaunpark, am Bahnhof.


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With the first case Kotte goes back to the darkest time of Dresden, in the winter of 1946. Frieda Lehmann, who had been infamous as a "butcher of the valley road", had stabbed a work colleague in her home because she wanted her coat. Even the young son of the victim was killed, the body was dismembered, and she distributed the bodies in her kitchen. In the Alaunpark, at the train station.
https://www.tag24.de/nachrichten/diese- ... yde-171230

According to the following statistics, only 2 people were guillotined at Munchner Platz Dresden in 1947.

http://www.stadtwikidd.de/wiki/Landgeri ... hner_Platz
Hinrichtungen

Bis 1956 wurden etwa 1400 Menschen im Gebäudekomplex am Münchner Platz hingerichtet. In der NS-Zeit stammten zwei Drittel der rund 1300 Opfer aus Tschechien (Böhmen/Mähren, Sudetenland) und Polen. Zwischen Kriegsende und 1952 verloren 17 Personen ihr Leben. Wie hoch die Opferzahl durch die sowjetische Militärjustiz war, ist unbekannt. Wie viele Zwischen 1952 und 1956 war der Ort die zentrale Hinrichtungsstätte der DDR. 66 Todesurteile wurden in dieser Zeit vollstreckt.

Zahl der Hinrichtungen:

1933: 0
1934: 1
1935: 2
1936: 2
1937: 3
1938: 2
1939: 6
1940: 31
1941: 46
1942: 261
1943: 373
1944: 549
1945: 67 (NS) + 2 (SBZ)
1946: 0
1947: 2
1948: 6
1949: 0
1950: 5
1951: 2
1952: 9
1953: 13
1954: 13
1955: 22
1956: 9
Die zum Tode Verurteilten wurden mit dem Fallbeil hingerichtet. Im Februar und März 1945 fanden kurzzeitig Erschießungen statt, da das Fallbeil bei den Bombardements am 13. Februar zerstört worden war.

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Persons beheaded in Leipzig for Nazi crimes

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Post by Pete26 » 19 Aug 2017, 00:26

The following persons were beheaded by guillotine in Leipzig for Nazi crimes:

Emil Hellmann, 14 October 1960

Georg Ludwig, 14 October 1960

Karl Obenaus, 14 October 1960 *

Kurt Goercke, 1 March 1961

Martin Brundel, 21 June 1962

Christian Kunst, 2 March 1962

Roland Puhr, 15 April 1964

Dr Horst Fischer, 8 July 1966

* This was the only triple guillotine execution in Leipzig. There were also several double executions for crimes other than Nazi crimes, but most executions were single executions.
The executioner was most likely Walter Boettcher.


The following persons were executed in Leipzig by shooting to the back of the head for Nazi crimes:

Kurt Wachholz, 28 april 1969

Josef Blosche, 29 July 1969

Hans Baumgartner, 16 September 1971

Hubert Schwerhoff, 3 November 1972

Paul Feustel, 8 May 1973

Albert Schuster, 31 March 1973

Karl Gorny, 30 January 1975

Johannes Kinder, 21 October 1976


The executioner was Hermann Lorenz.

East Germans were much more likely to prosecute Nazi criminals than West Germans years after WWII, and even as late as 30 years after WWII ended.

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Gravestone for Erna Diwisch at Vienna Central Cemetery

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Post by Pete26 » 21 Aug 2017, 06:21

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Erna Diwisch was beheaded at Vienna Regional Court on 24 May 1944 at the age of 23.

http://ernestine-diwisch.zurerinnerung. ... 4x1024.jpg

http://ernestine-diwisch.zurerinnerung.at/
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Gravestone for Anna Graef at Vienna Central Cemetery

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Post by Pete26 » 21 Aug 2017, 06:26

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Anna Graef was beheaded at Vienna Regional Court on 11 January 1944 at the age of 18.

http://anni-graef.zurerinnerung.at/site ... 4x1024.jpg


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French guillotine body basket

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Post by Pete26 » 11 Sep 2017, 03:02

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French guillotine wicker body basket was lined with galvanized sheet metal on the inside or with sheet lead to contain the blood. Thsi particular example was supposedly lined with lead. Its dimensions are given as 191 X 83 X 70 centimeters (75 X 33 X 28 inches) and it was large enough to hold three guillotined bodies.

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