Did the Russians raped German POWs?

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Post by Caldric » 15 Feb 2004, 22:07

gasmasktrooper wrote:i was only stating at the time of the second revolution,
that at the time, yes, russians were eating there own people through starvation, i did not say nothing about racial tolerance to any culture, and i greatly did not say anything abusive against the russians!
As the things i did say, i am not going to bat-a-eye lid, because i know they are true.

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I do not doubt there were some very sporadic and very rare occassions where canabalism could have happened. It has happened in most countries including the USA. The way you talk though one would think they were serving up humans in Moscow. I have read many works on the period and although as it is said there is nothing more brutal then a Russian Civil War, I have not read of any wide spread canabalism, in fact I have only read one such occurance and it was mostly rumor.

Could you point out a source for your comment?

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Post by Peter H » 16 Feb 2004, 13:58

A Bolshevik propaganda film of the early 1920s highlighted a case of cannibalism by a so called Kulak family.Blood suckers indeed!

I'm hesitant to endorse an isolated(fabricated?) case as the norm.

Ironic that the later enemies of the Soviet state attributed the same practice to the Red Army.

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Post by David Thompson » 16 Feb 2004, 18:53

Well, it doesn't look as though there is any evidence that either homosexual rape or cannibalism was the result of any Soviet or Russian national policy, and it looks like the evidence for either of these practices as part of the war on the eastern front is all but non-existent.

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Post by Caldric » 16 Feb 2004, 22:11

Sorry but you made the accusation so the burden is yours to prove it. I am afraid those links did not give much evidence on wide spread cannabalism. My statement is common knowledge there is no reason to show evidence, you are going against the commonly known so it will be your job to show the evidence. Which I have not seen yet.

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Post by gasmasktrooper » 17 Feb 2004, 12:01

Ye whatever :roll:

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Post by Caldric » 17 Feb 2004, 19:32

gasmasktrooper wrote:Ye whatever :roll:
Exactly.

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Post by KALEVALA » 17 Feb 2004, 20:13

I have seen document from finnish television and in it they said, that russian querillatroops\partisans , little troops behind enemy lines ho were
saboteuring and other against enemy action.There were older officer justice to kill lower ranking soldier, to be eated! If they couldn´t get any food, but im not sure did they ewer eated each others?

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Post by UKBROWSER » 10 Oct 2015, 13:23

The World At War - Episode 25 "Reckoning April 1945" shows a newsreel at 2m 41s of a German soldier shaking and traumatised after being raped - shocking! Its available on Youtube. Who the perpetrators were I don't know.

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Post by David Thompson » 10 Oct 2015, 15:46

UKBROWSER -- You wrote:
The World At War - Episode 25 "Reckoning April 1945" shows a newsreel at 2m 41s of a German soldier shaking and traumatised after being raped - shocking! Its available on Youtube. Who the perpetrators were I don't know.
So what? Most of our readers are aware that the "horrors of war" are proverbial, and there are many victims of crime in war time.

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Post by UKBROWSER » 12 Oct 2015, 12:52

I was just trying to be helpful to Panzermahn thats all! Are you rude to all your members David - after looking at your comments I think so!

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Post by Ononefoot39 » 12 Oct 2015, 17:36

In Janusch Bardach's "Man is Wolf to Man", a very credible book written by a gulag survivor, he speaks of countless instances of male on male rape in the gulags. I know gulags and POW camps are two different places, but I would imagine there is a real possibility these things happened. "Man is Wolf to Man" is an utterly fascinating book you guys should check out if you haven't already done so.

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Post by David Thompson » 12 Oct 2015, 20:39

Let's stay on the subject -- homosexual rapes of POWs by their captors, and whether it was permitted or condoned by Soviet authorities.

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Post by David Thompson » 13 Oct 2015, 06:29

An off-topic post from LineDoggie was removed pursuant to the topicality warning posted above.

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Post by UKBROWSER » 17 Oct 2015, 11:19

Homosexuality or "bourgeoisie perversion" was illegal under Soviet law but then so was rape of women and it happened: we can be reasonably certain German POWs were raped. They did'nt give the order to invade the USSR so "fair" it wasn't!

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