Making lamps out of jewis skin?

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Re: Making lamps out of jewis skin?

Post by Kralj Mattias » 20 Feb 2004 23:36

_The_General_ wrote:A friend of mine told me that the ss made lamps out of the skin of jews, i don't really believe it, what do you guyst think?
I heard something before about a "machine" that made soap out of jews.
But the only thing they could have gotten from a human body that is useful to make soap is fat , and most of the people in the camps hade very very little fat on theirs bodys...
Personally i dont really think its true.

I also know someone whos father had a friend that served as a doctor on the german side, and he got a wallet made of jew-skin from the Germans.

Edit : Of course the nazis could have used "fresh" prisoners for soap production

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Post by Jeremy Chan » 21 Feb 2004 05:35

The presumtion that lampshades were made out of Jewish skin is preposterous and is an example of how propaganda can be twisted so successfully to churn out German-haters in society.
What's next, using Jewish hair as pillow stuffing? Or necklaces adorned with Jews' gold teeth?
The outrages lies told to root belief of barbarism amazes me. I'm not deying the Holocaust but KL personnel wouldn't stretch to such extreme lengths of sadism.

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Post by Eden Zhang » 21 Feb 2004 07:38

Colonel SteelFist wrote:What's next, using Jewish hair as pillow stuffing?
No, but the hair of concentration camp inmates were used to manufacture velvet for U-boat crews.

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Post by David Thompson » 21 Feb 2004 07:49

Colonel Steelfist -- You said:
The presumtion that lampshades were made out of Jewish skin is preposterous and is an example of how propaganda can be twisted so successfully to churn out German-haters in society.
What's next, using Jewish hair as pillow stuffing? Or necklaces adorned with Jews' gold teeth?
The outrages lies told to root belief of barbarism amazes me. I'm not deying the Holocaust but KL personnel wouldn't stretch to such extreme lengths of sadism.
This is a research section of the forum. The allegations of lampshades, etc. are supported by photographic evidence. You may feel that
KL personnel wouldn't stretch to such extreme lengths of sadism.
If your incredulity has some evidentiary basis, we're not seeing it. The personal opinions of posters are of interest only to the extent that they are backed with evidence. If you have some, I'm sure our readers would be gratified to read it.
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Re: Making lamps out of jewis skin?

Post by fighting_scars » 21 Feb 2004 07:51

Kralj Mattias wrote:
_The_General_ wrote:A friend of mine told me that the ss made lamps out of the skin of jews, i don't really believe it, what do you guyst think?
I heard something before about a "machine" that made soap out of jews.
But the only thing they could have gotten from a human body that is useful to make soap is fat , and most of the people in the camps hade very very little fat on theirs bodys...
Personally i dont really think its true.

I also know someone whos father had a friend that served as a doctor on the german side, and he got a wallet made of jew-skin from the Germans.

Edit : Of course the nazis could have used "fresh" prisoners for soap production
The soap story is true, there's a bar of it in a Musem un Poland....there was a picture of it in a thread specifically about the soap a while a go. What the search function was invented for :wink:

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Post by michael mills » 21 Feb 2004 10:30

David Thompson wrote:
The allegations of lampshades, etc. are supported by photographic evidence.
I think that a little more precision is required here.

There is photographic evidence that pieces of tattooed skin, shrunken heads and lampshades were put on public display on the grounds of the Buchenwald concentration camp after it was handed over to the United States Army by the Communist prisoners who had taken charge after the flight of the German staff.

The pieces of tattooed skin were later tested and found to be of human origin. German documents reveal that the concentration camps were directed to collect specimens of tattooed skin from deceased prisoners and forward them to the Concentration Camp Inspectorate at Oranienburg.

As for lampshades and shrunken heads, the photographic evidence simply shows that they were in existence on a certain day in April 1945, at a certain place. It says nothing about their origin.

The lampshades may well have been found in the living quarters of the camp staff who had fled. But to my knowledge no tests were ever performed on them, so the allegation that they were manufactured from human skin remains totally unproven.

Shrunken heads are not unique, and many speciemns may be found in anthropological museums. They derive in most cases from South America or Melanesia. There is nothing to prove whether the shrunken heads photographed at Buchenwald were manufactured in the camp as alleged, or taken from some anthropological collection.

As I said, more precision about what photographic evidence actually shows is required.

Finally, with regard to the use of skin taken from Jews, all I can say is that I have been advised not to eat calamari in kosher restaurants.

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Post by Groscurth » 21 Feb 2004 11:39

David Thompson wrote:Colonel Steelfist -- You said:
The presumtion that lampshades were made out of Jewish skin is preposterous and is an example of how propaganda can be twisted so successfully to churn out German-haters in society.
What's next, using Jewish hair as pillow stuffing? Or necklaces adorned with Jews' gold teeth?
The outrages lies told to root belief of barbarism amazes me. I'm not deying the Holocaust but KL personnel wouldn't stretch to such extreme lengths of sadism.
This is a research section of the forum. The allegations of lampshades, etc. are supported by photographic evidence. You may feel that
KL personnel wouldn't stretch to such extreme lengths of sadism.
If your incredulity has some evidentiary basis, we're not seeing it. The personal opinions of posters are of interest only to the extent that they are backed with evidence. If you have some, I'm sure our readers would be gratified to read it.

Regard my previous post on page 2 of this topic, evidence with sources about the investigation and found facts at AMI.

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Post by xcalibur » 21 Feb 2004 15:26

michael mills wrote:David Thompson wrote:
The allegations of lampshades, etc. are supported by photographic evidence.
I think that a little more precision is required here.

There is photographic evidence that pieces of tattooed skin, shrunken heads and lampshades were put on public display on the grounds of the Buchenwald concentration camp after it was handed over to the United States Army by the Communist prisoners who had taken charge after the flight of the German staff.

The pieces of tattooed skin were later tested and found to be of human origin. German documents reveal that the concentration camps were directed to collect specimens of tattooed skin from deceased prisoners and forward them to the Concentration Camp Inspectorate at Oranienburg.

As for lampshades and shrunken heads, the photographic evidence simply shows that they were in existence on a certain day in April 1945, at a certain place. It says nothing about their origin.

The lampshades may well have been found in the living quarters of the camp staff who had fled. But to my knowledge no tests were ever performed on them, so the allegation that they were manufactured from human skin remains totally unproven.

Shrunken heads are not unique, and many speciemns may be found in anthropological museums. They derive in most cases from South America or Melanesia. There is nothing to prove whether the shrunken heads photographed at Buchenwald were manufactured in the camp as alleged, or taken from some anthropological collection.

As I said, more precision about what photographic evidence actually shows is required.
Yes, the key word here is evidence, and what's available is really not enough to make a convincing case particularly against Frau Koch. As Mills points out there was scientific analysis performed on certain skins and they did prove to be of human origin (a copy of the original report can be found at Nizkor). Lampshades and other "novelties" fall into the much murkier area of anecdotal evidence some of which was used at Koch's trial at Dachau. There is no clear chain of evidence, however, which proves that she was ever in possession of the items in question and there was no scientific analysis done to determine the origin of these items.

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Post by Omega-Force » 21 Feb 2004 17:48

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Post by Groscurth » 21 Feb 2004 18:12

Good reply!
Nice pictures of the executions of Jews in Russia.

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Post by Kaan Caglar » 21 Feb 2004 18:17

Groscurth wrote:Good reply!
Nice pictures of the executions of Jews in Russia.
I wouldnt describe them as "nice pictures" but some unique ones. :?

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Post by Groscurth » 21 Feb 2004 18:29

_KaaN_ wrote:
Groscurth wrote:Good reply!
Nice pictures of the executions of Jews in Russia.
I wouldnt describe them as "nice pictures" but some unique ones. :?
I posted some topics and proofs against holocaust deniers (watch page 2 of this topic), but I don't like zionists. Imagine the world if Hitler did not kill masses of them, they would have been to mighty now and all Arab nations would be in the same position as the Palestinians.


Before accusing me of something that I am not, watch page 2 first.

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Post by Kaan Caglar » 21 Feb 2004 18:53

Groscurth wrote:but I don't like zionists. Imagine the world if Hitler did not kill masses of them, they would have been to mighty now and all Arab nations would be in the same position as the Palestinians.
I think you may have the right for not liking a group but I dont think you can show a positive way of Hitler killing masses of Jews..
Groscurth wrote: Before accusing me of something that I am not, watch page 2 first.
I didnt accuse you about anything just wanted to say pictures of killed innocents can NOT be nice.
Kaan

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Post by Groscurth » 21 Feb 2004 18:58

Of course they were innocant but as a 33 year old, I have been long enough on this planet to see and make comparisions between the 30ties and the way Sharon acts. This explains my anger at the zionists and why I think that the world would be a more dangerous place with all those people still alive.

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Post by Marcus » 21 Feb 2004 19:13

Groscurth,

Such comments are not tolerated here and any further such remarks will get you banned.

/Marcus
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