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Post by michael mills » 16 Mar 2004, 23:04

If some of the NKVD officers were Jewish, so what?
Quantity can make quality.

According to the table linked by Oleg at the site http://www.memo.ru/history/NKVD/kto/stattab4.htm,
in July 1936 (when the NKVD was established, absorbing the former OGPU) of a total of 96 senior NKVD officers, 37 were Jewish by nationality, or 38.54%. At the same date, 30 senior officers were Russian and only 5 were Ukrainian; that is to say, the number of senior officers of Jewish extraction was equal to the number of Russian and Ukrainian officers combined.

When we consider the very small size of the Jewish population of the Soviet Union compared with the size of the Russian and Ukrainian populations, which together constituted over half the total, we see that Jews were vastly over-represented in the top echelons of the NKVD. That in turn gives the impression that in 1936 the NKVD was a disproportionately Jewish organisation.

The significance of that is that a typical Ukrainian, seeing the disproportionate number of Jewish officers and the very small number of officers of his own nationality, might well conclude that this organisation of state security that was oppressing him, and of which he lived in fear, was a Jewish organisation, representing a Jewish tyranny over him. That in turn would lead him to hate and fear the Jewish population in general, and predispose him to collaborate in its destruction by the German invaders only five years later.

The over-representation of Jews in the top echelons of the NKVD in 1936 most probably indicates a similar over-representation in the organs of state security going right back to the beginning of the Bolshevik regime. Regardless of whether that over-representation truly indicates that the Bolshevik regime was a Jewish tyranny over the other peoples of the former Russian Empire, what counts is the impression in the minds of the common people and of outside observers, including observers in Germany such as Hitler, when he was writing "Mein Kampf" in 1924.

According to the table at the above site, the over-representation of Jews in the senior ranks of the NKVD continued until July 1937, when their number began to be swamped by the increasing numbers of Russians recruited as part of the huge increase in the size of the NKVD during the Great Terror, which began in July 1937.

However, by that time, the impression of the NKVD as a Jewish organisation of oppression and terror had become indelible in the minds of the people. I think there can be no doubt of a causal link between the longstanding over-representation of Jews in the Soviet organs of state security and the later mass-slaughter of the Jewish population at German hands, which began in occupied Soviet territory and not in Germany, and which in many ways had the nature of an act of ethnic revenge.

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Post by David Thompson » 16 Mar 2004, 23:10

Askold -- You said:
this is a well known fact that vast majority of Jews in Lviv (and even some Ukrainians) welcomed the Soviets. As result, again, vast majority of Jews cooperated with Soviet regime.

You were asked:
so where is your sources – I really would like to see the method by which you managed to account for the activities of “vast majority of Jews”.
You replied:
This was mentioned in number of Ukrainian books. To specifically search for such a general and widely accepted comment, would indeed be a waste of research time (its like asking - show me a book where it mentiones that Germans invated Europe
This is not an acceptable answer. You have made a broad generalization obout a racial, religious or national group sympathizing with and supporting a brutal and oppressive dictatorship. When asked, you refused to provide evidence for your claim. This is a research area of the forum where facts and informed opinions are discussed -- not a place for posters to blurt out their ill-formed social notions and crude prejudices. Don't do it again.


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Post by Sergey Romanov » 16 Mar 2004, 23:15

> That in turn would lead him to hate and fear the Jewish population in general, and predispose him to collaborate in its destruction by the German invaders only five years later.

But such irrational response on the part of this abstract Ukrainian, of course, wouldn't make crimes against Jewish population even a bit less reprehensible.

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 16 Mar 2004, 23:44

As comrade Stalin said: “there only two roads open to Chekist : to be promoted or to go to jail”. Purges of NKVD were rather perpetual process although not without it spikes.

Isaac Shapiro –head of the 1st special section arrested 11.13.38 sentenced to death 02.04.40 (std from here on)
Yakov Veinshtock head of the 10th Section of GUGB arr21.09. 38 std 22.02.39
Mikahil Litvin head of the Leningrad NKVD suicide sometime in 11-38
Israel Dagin chief of the 1st section GUGB arr. 11.05.38 std 01.21.40
Lev Kagan chief of the 3rd section of GUGB arr. 06.14.37 std 08.29.38
Minaev-Cikanovskiy 8th department of the 8section arr 11.06.38 std 02.25.39
Israel Leplevskiy chief of the3rd Section arr 04.26.38 std 07.28.38
Abram Sluckiy chief of the 7th section GUGB poisoned on 02.17.38
Vladimir Cesraskiy 8th section of GUGB arr 12.09.38 std 01.21.40
Semen Zhukovskiy deputy to Commissar of IA arr 10.23.38 std 01.24.40
Mikahil Vayner chief of GUShOSDOR arr 21.11.38 std 02.25.39
Yankel Agranov 4th section of GUGB arr 07.20.37 std 08.01.38
Zalman Passov 5th Section of GUGB arr 10.22.38 std 2.14.40
Lev Reihman defensive industry section of GEU NKVD arr 09.28.38 std. 01.25.40
Lev Zelman head of the 1st section arr 06.07.38 std 01.21.40
Natan Shapiro-Dayhovskiy deputy to the head of the 2nd section arr 04.14.38 std 08.29.38
Boris Cifranovich deputy to the head of th the 4th section arr 12.28.38 std 02.20.39
Agas Mosif head of the 1st dep. of the 2nd section arr 10.25.38 std 02.22.39
Mikahil Yamnickiy deputy to the chief of the OO NKVD OKDVA arr 11.06.38 std 02.26.39
Abram Belskiy deputy to Commissar of IA arr 06.30.39 std 07.05.41
Boris Berman chief of the 3rd section of GUGB arr. 09.24.38 std 02.22.39
Izrail Radzivilovskiy chief 3rd dep. Of the 3rd section. arr 09.13.38 std 01.22.40
Mikahil Alehin chief 2nd special section arr 09.13.38 std 02.22.39
Moisey Gatov 4th section of GEU NKVD arr 12.28.38 std 02.22.39
Iosif Ostrovskiy chief of UShOSDOR NKVD UkSSR arr 03.29.37 std 06.20.37
Matvey Berman deputy to Commissar of IA arr 12.24.38 std 03.07.39
Israil Pilner chief of GULAG NKVD arr 11.14.38 std 02.22.39
Moisey Alievskiy chief of OAGS NKVD arr 05.11.38 sentenced to 15 years died in GULAG 5 moths prior to release
Anatoliy Benkovich chief of GUGSK of NKVD USSR arr 07.23.37 std 10.27.37
Aleksander Lurie chief of ISO NKVD arr 03.22.37 std 06.20.37
Emil Zibrak chief of "Special Construction Projects" of NKVD arr 08.16.37 std 10.08.37
Matvey Dmitriev chief of GUShOSDOR of NKVD arr 06.28.38 std 03.07.39
Konstantin Shur chief of GUMV NKVD fired from NKVD 05.19.37

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 17 Mar 2004, 00:04

According to the table linked by Oleg at the site http://www.memo.ru/history/NKVD/kto/stattab4.htm,
in July 1936 (when the NKVD was established, absorbing the former OGPU) of a total of 96 senior NKVD officers, 37 were Jewish by nationality, or 38.54%. At the same date, 30 senior officers were Russian and only 5 were Ukrainian; that is to say, the number of senior officers of Jewish extraction was equal to the number of Russian and Ukrainian officers combined.
There are also more Latvians than Ukrainians –and?
When we consider the very small size of the Jewish population of the Soviet Union compared with the size of the Russian and Ukrainian populations, which together constituted over half the total, we see that Jews were vastly over-represented in the top echelons of the NKVD. That in turn gives the impression that in 1936 the NKVD was a disproportionately Jewish organisation.
That would be the case if population in large was actually well informed of “who is who” in NKVD which obliviously was not the case then not the case now and in general not the case in any Secret Service/Police throughout the world. What population new probably was the Name of the Narkom of Internal Officers and maybe the name of local town head of NKVD – and even that is not necessarily. I for ones have no idea for instance who is in charges of FSB in Novosibirsk. To that add the fact that many Jews had in fact Slavic last names and the informed masses would no chance in hell to determine their nationality unless the later loudly proclaimed it.
The significance of that is that a typical Ukrainian, seeing the disproportionate number of Jewish officers and the very small number of officers of his own nationality, might well conclude that this organisation of state security that was oppressing him, and of which he lived in fear, was a Jewish organisation, representing a Jewish tyranny over him. That in turn would lead him to hate and fear the Jewish population in general, and predispose him to collaborate in its destruction by the German invaders only five years later.
typical Ukrainian would have no access to this information. What typical Ukrainian would know however is that the head of Ukrainian NKVD is in fact Ukrainian Balickiy –or maybe he just would know his last name and have no idea what ethnicity he was.
The over-representation of Jews in the top echelons of the NKVD in 1936 most probably indicates a similar over-representation in the organs of state security going right back to the beginning of the Bolshevik regime. Regardless of whether that over-representation truly indicates that the Bolshevik regime was a Jewish tyranny over the other peoples of the former Russian Empire, what counts is the impression in the minds of the common people and of outside observers, including observers in Germany such as Hitler, when he was writing "Mein Kampf" in 1924.
well first of all it is not, and second the common people ones again would have no idea.
According to the table at the above site, the over-representation of Jews in the senior ranks of the NKVD continued until July 1937, when their number began to be swamped by the increasing numbers of Russians recruited as part of the huge increase in the size of the NKVD during the Great Terror, which began in July 1937.
Russians only –what happened to Ukrainian and Georgians mr Mills –continently ignoring them? And btw decrease in “Jewish” ranks had nothing to do with NKVD expansion.
However, by that time, the impression of the NKVD as a Jewish organisation of oppression and terror had become indelible in the minds of the people. I think there can be no doubt of a causal link between the longstanding over-representation of Jews in the Soviet organs of state security and the later mass-slaughter of the Jewish population at German hands, which began in occupied Soviet territory and not in Germany, and which in many ways had the nature of an act of ethnic revenge.
based on the information they had no access to? And why would population of 1939 western Ukraine who I imagine could not care less who was in charge of NKVD in 1936 and even if it did –it had no way of actually knowing, would associate NKVD with Jews and not with fellow Ukrainians or at least Russians?

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Post by David Thompson » 17 Mar 2004, 01:32

Michael -- I asked:
If some of the NKVD officers were Jewish, so what?
You reasoned:
The significance of that is that a typical Ukrainian, seeing the disproportionate number of Jewish officers and the very small number of officers of his own nationality, might well conclude that this organisation of state security that was oppressing him, and of which he lived in fear, was a Jewish organisation, representing a Jewish tyranny over him. That in turn would lead him to hate and fear the Jewish population in general, and predispose him to collaborate in its destruction by the German invaders only five years later.
It is primitive and irrational to take the behavior of a few persons and use it to generalize about an entire group. It is even more barbarous and dim-witted to take revenge against a person or group of persons who had nothing to do with the original wrong or its perpetrator(s).

History does indeed present examples of this sort of conceptual squalor, but it is noteworthy that almost all of those examples were accompanied by the most ignorant, malignant and/or envious sort of propaganda campaign. The failure of the intelligent members of the community to recognize and act against this evil is truly unfortunate, whenever and wherever it may occur.

Certainly the example given here does not excuse, and cannot really explain, the Ukrainian anti-semitic pogroms of June and July 1941. For that kind of understanding, it is also necessary to look long and hard at the asocial and mentally aberrant perpetrators, as well as the conditions under which their crimes could be committed with impunity.

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Post by michael mills » 17 Mar 2004, 02:19

Oleg,

Thanks for the list of NKVD officers of Jewish nationality purged in 1937 and 1938.

It seems that most of them were repressed in the second half of 1938, with a smaller number in 1937, in the course of the Greta Terror.

There seems to me to be a correlation between the large number of Jewish NKVD officers repressed in the second half of 1938 and the gradual undermining of Ezhov by Stalin and his final fall in November of that year.

Oleg, do you think that there was a specific targeting of NKVD officers of Jewish origin in conjunction with the overthrow of Ezhov? Or do you think the relatively large number of Jewish NKVD officers repressed at that time simply reflects the large number of Jewish officers in the NKVD as a whole (at least up until 1938)?

You wrote:
decrease in “Jewish” ranks had nothing to do with NKVD expansion.
Perhaps not after September 1938, when the table you linked shows that there was an absolute decline in the number of Jewish NKVD leaders from 32 to six.

However, I was referring to the period of the Great Terror, from July 1937 to November 1938. During that period, the actual number of Jewish NKVD leaders remained essentially constant according to the table you linked (36 in July 1937, 34 in January 1938, 32 in September 1938), but the proportion they represented of total NKVD leaders declined from 32% in July 1937 to 21% in September 1938.

As can be plainly seen from the table, that proportional decline was entirely due to the rapid increase in the total numbers of NKVD leaders (from 113 in July 1937 to 150 in September 1938), with the additions to the number of senior officers being mostly Russians ( 38 in July 1937, 58 in January 1938, 85 in September 1938), and to a lesser extent Ukrainians (doubling from 5 in July 1937 to 10 in September 1938).

The increase in senior NKVD officers of Russian origin seems to be part of an ongoing process that began with the inception of the Great Terror in JUly 1937 and continued, with the number of such officers trebling from 38 in July 1937 to 118 in February 1941.

And even after the doubling of Ukrainian officers from 5 to 10, their number in September 1938 was still only one-third the number of Jewish officers (32), even though the number of Ukrainians in the Soviet Union was far greater than the number of Jews.

Even though the number of senior NKVD officers of Ukrainian origin continued to increase (from 10 in September 1938, to 28 in February 1941), they were still proportionately under-represented relative to officers of Jewish origin. In February 1941 there were 28 Ukrainian officers to 10 Jewish, ie slightly less than three times as many; but the Soviet population of Ukrainian ethnicity was certainly far larger than three times the size of the Jewish population.

Finally, I have not forgotten the increase in the number of Georgian officers. But I concentrated on the officers of Russian ethnicity, since they represented the largest ethnic group in the Soviet Union, and therefore their proportion in the senior ranks of the NKVD, and the increase in that proportion, seemed to me to be the most significant indicator of changes in the ethnic make-up.

I really would like to have a civilised exchange on the issue of the Jewish presence in the NKVD, how that was perceived by the population, and the degree to which it was a factor in the later persecution of the Jewish population as a whole. I would really like to leave the polemics aside.

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 17 Mar 2004, 03:05

I really would like to have a civilised exchange on the issue of the Jewish presence in the NKVD, how that was perceived by the population, and the degree to which it was a factor in the later persecution of the Jewish population as a whole. I would really like to leave the polemics aside.
Mr. Mills the cornerstone of your theory was that backlash against Jews in Western Ukraine (there not that many pogroms in Eastern Ukraine anyway) was that it was caused by alleged high proportion of Jews in NKVD oppressive apparatus. In order for that theory to be valid - population of the Western Ukraine had to be very well versed in ethnic make-up of NKVD cadre of post 1939 period (there is nothing to avenge for them before that). That means that huge number of people suddenly got accesses to highly classified information. That was not the case , and consequently the whole revenge theory does not seem to have a leg to stand on. I’ll address you question on “how come so many Jews” later in the evening.
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Post by Askold » 17 Mar 2004, 03:38

David Thompson:

Am sorry if it seemed like a crude prejudice notion, this was certainly not my intention. I will try to gather some valid documentation on the subject. In the mean time, here is some brief info, which I hope is acceptible, from report of German Einzatsgruppe:
Location: Zviahel (Novograd-Volynski)

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Before leaving, the Bolsheviks, together with the Jews, murdered several Ukrainians; as an excuse, they used the attempted Ukrainian uprising of June 25, 1941, which tried to free their prisoners.
taken from:
(Operational Situation Report USSR No. 24, July 16, 1941, in Yitzhak Arad, Shmuel Krakowski, and Shmuel Spector, The Einsatzgruppen Reports: Selections from the Dispatches of the Nazi Death Squads' Campaign Against the Jews July 1941-January 1943, Holocaust Library, New York, 1989, p. 29-33)

Also, information from a credible academic journal (If am not mistaking, the athor himself is Jewish)
Jews abounded [also] at the lower levels of the Party machinery — especially in the Cheka and its successors, the GPU, the OGPU and the NKVD.... It is difficult to suggest a satisfactory reason for the prevalence of Jews in the Cheka. It may be that having suffered at the hand of the former Russian authorities they wanted to seize the reins of real power in the new state for themselves.
(Leonard Shapiro, The Role of Jews in the Russian Revolutionary Movement, Slavonic and East European Review, 1961, 40, p. 165

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Post by Askold » 17 Mar 2004, 03:46

P.S. Found a bit on Lviv participation from the same reports (again, tell me if Enizatsgruppen reports are credible source [they seem to be used to be used as credible source in many Holocaust publications])
On the next day, Dr. RASCH informed us to the effect that the killed people in Lemberg amounted to about 5,000. It has been determined without any doubt that the arrests and killings had taken place under the leadership of Jewish functionaries and with the participation of the Jewish inhabitants of Lemberg. That was the reason why there was such an excitement against the Jewish population on the part of the Lemberg citizens.
Source: (Erwin Schulz, from May until 26 September, 1941 Commander of Einsatzkommando 5, a subunit of Einsatzgruppe C, in John Mendelsohn, editor, The Holocaust: Selected Documents in Eighteen Volumes, Garland, New York, 1982, Volume 18, p. 18

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 17 Mar 2004, 03:49

Askold wrote:David Thompson:

Am sorry if it seemed like a crude prejudice notion, this was certainly not my intention. I will try to gather some valid documentation on the subject. In the mean time, here is some brief info, which I hope is acceptible, from report of German Einzatsgruppe:
Location: Zviahel (Novograd-Volynski)

...

Before leaving, the Bolsheviks, together with the Jews, murdered several Ukrainians; as an excuse, they used the attempted Ukrainian uprising of June 25, 1941, which tried to free their prisoners.
taken from:
(Operational Situation Report USSR No. 24, July 16, 1941, in Yitzhak Arad, Shmuel Krakowski, and Shmuel Spector, The Einsatzgruppen Reports: Selections from the Dispatches of the Nazi Death Squads' Campaign Against the Jews July 1941-January 1943, Holocaust Library, New York, 1989, p. 29-33)
I see some unnamed Bolsheviks and unnamed Jews did the shootings one might wonder how German Einzatsgruppe got the informations - NKVD left detailed report for them?

Also, information from a credible academic journal (If am not mistaking, the athor himself is Jewish)
Jews abounded [also] at the lower levels of the Party machinery — especially in the Cheka and its successors, the GPU, the OGPU and the NKVD.... It is difficult to suggest a satisfactory reason for the prevalence of Jews in the Cheka. It may be that having suffered at the hand of the former Russian authorities they wanted to seize the reins of real power in the new state for themselves.
(Leonard Shapiro, The Role of Jews in the Russian Revolutionary Movement, Slavonic and East European Review, 1961, 40, p. 165[/quote] another perl considreing the fact that detailed studies into the quetsion were made only in the late 90s one might wonder what exactly did good professor base his conclussions on?

P.S Head of Volyn NKVD - Belocerkovskiy -another Ukranian.

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Post by xcalibur » 17 Mar 2004, 04:00

Askold wrote:P.S. Found a bit on Lviv participation from the same reports (again, tell me if Enizatsgruppen reports are credible source [they seem to be used to be used as credible source in many Holocaust publications])
On the next day, Dr. RASCH informed us to the effect that the killed people in Lemberg amounted to about 5,000. It has been determined without any doubt that the arrests and killings had taken place under the leadership of Jewish functionaries and with the participation of the Jewish inhabitants of Lemberg. That was the reason why there was such an excitement against the Jewish population on the part of the Lemberg citizens.
Source: (Erwin Schulz, from May until 26 September, 1941 Commander of Einsatzkommando 5, a subunit of Einsatzgruppe C, in John Mendelsohn, editor, The Holocaust: Selected Documents in Eighteen Volumes, Garland, New York, 1982, Volume 18, p. 18
The veracity of Einsatzgruppen reports has certainly been challenged as to the number of victims reported to higher headquarters. Questioning the veracity on the basis of numbers reported is a valid exercise in consideration of the fact that the higher headquarters was measuring a unit's success by its effectiveness in reaching numerical goals.

It's certainly worth questioning the veracity of the reports as to crimes committed by jews as the higher headquarters had already defined the jews as a criminal element.

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Post by Askold » 17 Mar 2004, 04:20

Its good to hear your comments on the reports. Just one more thing I managed to dig up:

According to historian Richard C. Lucas, at the time of the Soviet occupation of eastern Poland in 1939,
"Jews in cities and towns displayed Red flags to welcome Soviet troops, helped to disarm Polish soldiers, and filled administrative positions in Soviet-occupied Poland ... The Soviets with Jewish help shipped off the Polish intelligentsia to the depths of the Soviet Union. Some monasteries and convents were turned over to the Jews."
The Forgotten Holocaust, Lexington, Ky.: The University Press of Kentucky, 1986,p.128.

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 17 Mar 2004, 04:45

Askold wrote:Its good to hear your comments on the reports. Just one more thing I managed to dig up:

According to historian Richard C. Lucas, at the time of the Soviet occupation of eastern Poland in 1939,
"Jews in cities and towns displayed Red flags to welcome Soviet troops, helped to disarm Polish soldiers, and filled administrative positions in Soviet-occupied Poland ... The Soviets with Jewish help shipped off the Polish intelligentsia to the depths of the Soviet Union. Some monasteries and convents were turned over to the Jews."
The Forgotten Holocaust, Lexington, Ky.: The University Press of Kentucky, 1986,p.128.
what about Ukranians?
Çäåñü ñëåäóåò îñòàíîâèòüñÿ íà îòíîøåíèè ìåñòíîãî íàñåëåíèÿ ê ïðèøåäøèì ñîâåòñêèì âîéñêàì. Êàê ñâèäåòåëüñòâóþò äîêóìåíòû, íàïðèìåð, 87-é ñòðåëêîâîé äèâèçèè, «âî âñåõ íàñåëåííûõ ïóíêòàõ, ãäå ïðîõîäèëè ÷àñòè íàøåé äèâèçèè, òðóäÿùååñÿ íàñåëåíèå âñòðå÷àëî èõ ñ âåëèêîé ðàäîñòüþ, êàê ïîäëèííûõ îñâîáîäèòåëåé îò ãíåòà ïîëüñêèõ ïàíîâ è êàïèòàëèñòîâ, êàê èçáàâèòåëåé îò íèùåòû è ãîëîäà». Òî æå ìû âèäèì è â ìàòåðèàëàõ 45-é ñòðåëêîâîé äèâèçèè: «Íàñåëåíèå âåçäå ðàäî è âñòðå÷àåò Êðàñíóþ àðìèþ êàê îñâîáîäèòåëüíèöó. Êðåñòüÿíèí ñåëà Îñòðîæåö Ñèäîðåíêî çàÿâèë: «Ñêîðåå áû óñòàíîâèëàñü Ñîâåòñêàÿ âëàñòü, à òî 20 ëåò ïîëüñêèå ïàíû ñèäåëè íà íàøèõ øåÿõ, âûñàñûâàëè èç íàñ ïîñëåäíþþ êðîâü, à òåïåðü íàêîíåö ïðèøëî âðåìÿ, êîãäà íàñ Êðàñíàÿ àðìèÿ îñâîáîäèëà. Ñïàñèáî òîâ. Ñòàëèíó çà îñâîáîæäåíèå îò êàáàëû ïîëüñêèõ ïîìåùèêîâ è êàïèòàëèñòîâ»»
Òàêèå æå íàñòðîåíèÿ íàáëþäàëèñü è â ïîëîñå äåéñòâèÿ Áåëîðóññêîãî ôðîíòà, ãäå ìåñòíîå íàñåëåíèå çàÿâëÿëî: «Íå îæèäàëè» ìû òàêîãî îñâîáîæäåíèÿ, åñëè áû íå Ñîâåòñêèé Ñîþç, [365] íàì òàê áû è ïðèøëîñü ïîìåðåòü, íå óâèäåâ ñâîáîäó». Íà ìèòèíãå â Ãëóáîêîì 76-ëåòíÿÿ ìåñòíàÿ æèòåëüíèöà çàÿâèëà: «Ñïàñèáî, äîðîãèå òîâàðèùè, ñïàñèáî òîâàðèùó Ñòàëèíó. Ìû âàñ æäàëè 20 ëåò è âîò òåïåðü äîæäàëèñü äîëãîæäàííûõ ãîñòåé. Òåïåðü ìû âìåñòå ñ âàìè áóäåì óíè÷òîæàòü ïîðàáîòèòåëåé. Ñïàñèáî, òîâàðèùè». Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî áîëåå ðàäóøíî âñòðå÷àëè ñîâåòñêèå âîéñêà æèòåëè ñàìûõ âîñòî÷íûõ ðàéîíîâ Ïîëüøè. Ïî ìåðå ïðîäâèæåíèÿ íà çàïàä ïîëèòîðãàíû îòìå÷àëè áîëåå ñïîêîéíûå íàñòðîåíèÿ, íî è òàì òðóäÿùèåñÿ áûëè ðàäû ïðèõîäó Êðàñíîé àðìèè{783}.

Óçíàâ, ÷òî ñêîðî ñîâåòñêèå âîéñêà áóäóò îòâåäåíû íà âîñòîê, ìåñòíîå íàñåëåíèå çàïàäíîãî áåðåãà Áóãà âûðàæàëî «èñêëþ÷èòåëüíîå ñîæàëåíèå ïî ïîâîäó îñòàâëåíèÿ Êðàñíîé àðìèåé çàíÿòûõ íàñåëåííûõ ïóíêòîâ.  ñåëå Äîðîãó÷à êðåñòüÿíèí-ñåðåäíÿê Ñîòîêà Èâàí çàÿâèë: «Êîãäà â íàøèõ ñåëàõ áûëè íåìöû, îíè çàáèðàëè ó íàñ êîðîâ, êóð, ãóñåé è ïðîäîâîëüñòâåííûå ïðîäóêòû. Ó ïîìåùèêîâ îíè íå òðîãàëè íè÷åãî. Òåïåðü, êîãäà ïðèøëè ÷àñòè Êðàñíîé àðìèè, òå ó íàñ àáñîëþòíî íè÷åãî íå âçÿëè. Ìû Êðàñíóþ àðìèþ ëþáèì è çà íåþ ïîéäåì êóäà óãîäíî»{784}.  ïîëîñå äåéñòâèÿ 8-é ñòðåëêîâîé äèâèçèè ìåñòíûå æèòåëè ïðîñèëè: «Äîðîãèå òîâàðèùè, âû îò íàñ íå óõîäèòå íàâñåãäà, ìû ñäåëàåì âñå äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû âû áûëè ñêîðî ó íàñ îáðàòíî»{785}.  Öåøàíóâ íàñåëåíèå, óçíàâ î ïåðåäà÷å ýòîé òåððèòîðèè Ãåðìàíèè, ìàññàìè îñàæäàëî ñîâåòñêèå ÷àñòè ñ ïðîñüáàìè âçÿòü èõ ñ ñîáîé â ÑÑÑÐ: «Òîëüêî âû ìîæåòå ñîõðàíèòü íàøó æèçíü è íàøèõ äåòåé. Íàøå áóäóùåå òàì, ãäå Êðàñíàÿ àðìèÿ, ãäå Ñòàëèí». Óæå ñ 30 ñåíòÿáðÿ ìåñòíûå æèòåëè çàäàâàëè âîïðîñû î âîçìîæíîñòè ýâàêóèðîâàòüñÿ â Ñîâåòñêèé Ñîþç.

2 îêòÿáðÿ Ïîëèòóïðàâëåíèå Óêðàèíñêîãî ôðîíòà èçäàëî äèðåêòèâó îá îðãàíèçàöèè ýâàêóàöèè íàñåëåíèÿ ÷åðåç ìåñòíûå âðåìåííûå óïðàâëåíèÿ.  1.30 3 îêòÿáðÿ Ïîëèòóïðàâëåíèÿ Áåëîðóññêîãî è Óêðàèíñêîãî ôðîíòîâ ïîëó÷èëè äèðåêòèâó Ïîëèòóïðàâëåíèÿ ÐÊÊÀ ¹ 0271, â êîòîðîé ñîîáùàëîñü, ÷òî íàðêîì îáîðîíû äàë óêàçàíèå ïðîïóñòèòü ÷åðåç îïðåäåëåííûå ïóíêòû íà òåððèòîðèþ ÑÑÑÐ æåëàþùèõ ýâàêóèðîâàòüñÿ. Áåæåíöåâ ñëåäîâàëî ðàçìåùàòü â ñåëàõ è ãîðîäàõ, ýâàêóàöèþ ïðîâåñòè òàê, ÷òîáû îíà íå ìåøàëà äâèæåíèþ âîéñê. «Íèêàêîé àãèòàöèè çà óõîä íàñåëåíèÿ ñ îñâîáîæäàåìîé íàìè è çàíèìàåìîé íåìöàìè òåððèòîðèè íå äîïóñêàòü».  òîò æå [366] äåíü â 17 ÷àñîâ êîìàíäóþùèå ôðîíòîâ ïîëó÷èëè àíàëîãè÷íûé ïðèêàç íàðêîìà îáîðîíû ¹ 084. Ýâàêóèðîâàëèñü ÷ëåíû âðåìåííûõ óïðàâëåíèé, íàðîäíûå ìèëèöèîíåðû è àêòèâèñòû. Îäíàêî æåëàþùèõ óåõàòü â ÑÑÑÐ áûëî ìíîãî áîëüøå, è îíè ñàìè äâèíóëèñü íà âîñòîê. Ìíîãèå åõàëè ñ ðîäñòâåííèêàìè è çíàêîìûìè íà ñâîèõ ïîäâîäàõ, òðîôåéíûõ è âîéñêîâûõ àâòîìàøèíàõ. Òîëüêî çà 6—7 îêòÿáðÿ âî âðåìåííûõ óïðàâëåíèÿõ íà òåððèòîðèè âîñòî÷íåå Çàïàäíîãî Áóãà çàðåãèñòðèðîâàëîñü 7 òûñ. ñåìåé (îêîëî 20 òûñ. ÷åëîâåê). Äëÿ íèõ áûëè îðãàíèçîâàíû ñïåöèàëüíûå ïóíêòû ïðèåìà ýâàêóèðîâàííûõ ñ ïèòàíèåì è ìåäèöèíñêèì îáñëóæèâàíèåì. Ðàçìåùåíèå êðåñòüÿí â ñåëàõ ïðîõîäèëî ëåãêî, òîãäà êàê ñ ðàçìåùåíèåì ãîðîæàí âîçíèêàëè ïðîáëåìû.  öåëîì ïî 5-é è 6-é àðìèÿì áûëî ýâàêóèðîâàíî ïî÷òè 42 òûñ. ÷åëîâåê, îäíàêî ñðåäè ïîëüñêîãî íàñåëåíèÿ 28 ÷åëîâåê èçúÿâèëè æåëàíèå óéòè íà çàïàäíûé áåðåã Áóãà{787}.
http://militera.lib.ru/research/meltyukhov2/index.html [/quote]

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oh Askold...
Òàê êàê öåëüþ ïîëèòèêè êîììóíèñòîâ áûëî ïîëíîå óíè÷òîæåíèå ñòàðîé ñèñòåìû óïðàâëåíèÿ, ýòî ïðèâåëî ê òîìó, ÷òî äàæå íà ñàìûå íåçíà÷èòåëüíûå ïîñòû ñòàðàëèñü íàçíà÷àòü òîëüêî ëþäåé, ïðèåõàâøèõ ñ âîñòîêà.  Ñòàíèñëàâñêîé îáëàñòè ÓÑÑÐ ê 10 äåêàáðÿ 1939 ãîäà íàõîäèëîñü óæå 942 êîììóíèñòà. 15 , â Áåëîñòîêñêóþ îáëàñòü áûëî "ïðèñëàíî 12396 ÷åëîâåê, èç íèõ íà ðóêîâîäÿùóþ ïàðòðàáîòó - 553 ÷åëîâåêà. ... îñîáåííî óñåðäñòâîâàëè íà æåëåçíîäîðîæíîì òðàíñïîðòå, ãäå çàâåçëè îêîëî 3000 ÷åëîâåê, âïëîòü äî óáîðùèö". 16 Âî Ëüâîâå è îáëàñòè "èç ÷èñëà êîìàíäèðîâàííûõ îáêîì ÊÏ(á)Ó âûäâèíóë íà îòâåòñòâåííóþ ðàáîòó 678 ÷åëîâåê". 17  Ðîâåíñêîé îáëàñòè íà 23 àïðåëÿ 1940 ãîäà áûëî 1515 ÷ëåíîâ è 598 êàíäèäàòîâ ïàðòèè, â îñíîâíîì, ïðèñëàííûõ Öåíòðàëüíûì Êîìèòåòîì. 18

Åñòü îñíîâàíèÿ ïðåäïîëàãàòü, ÷òî ïîäáîð êàäðîâ â Áåëîðóññèè è íà Óêðàèíå îòëè÷àëñÿ ïî èõ íàöèîíàëüíîìó ñîñòàâó. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, íàì óäàëîñü îáíàðóæèòü áîëåå èëè ìåíåå ïîëíûå äàííûå òîëüêî ïî äâóì îáëàñòÿì.  Áåëîñòîêñêîé îáëàñòè èç âûäâèíóòûõ íà îòâåòñòâåííóþ ðàáîòó 11598 ÷åëîâåê áåëîðóññîâ áûëî 3214, ðóññêèõ - 613, ïîëÿêîâ - 5195, åâðååâ - 2431. 19

 Äðîãîáû÷ñêîé æå îáëàñòè óêðàèíöåâ áûëî âûäâèíóòî 3885 ÷åëîâåê, ïîëÿêîâ -200-245, åâðååâ - 336, ðóññêèõ -1920. 20

Èç ñðàâíåíèÿ ýòèõ äàííûõ (ïî ñîñòîÿíèþ íà àïðåëü 1940 ãîäà), ìîæíî ñäåëàòü âûâîä î òîì, ÷òî â Áåëîðóññèè â öåëîì ïðîâîäèëàñü íåñêîëüêî áîëåå ëèáåðàëüíàÿ ïîëèòèêà ïðè ïîäáîðå êàäðîâ ñðåäè ëèö íåòèòóëüíûõ íàöèîíàëüíîñòåé. Íà Óêðàèíå æå âëàñòè ñòîëêíóëèñü ñ ñèëüíûì íàöèîíàëèñòè÷åñêèì äâèæåíèåì. Íà÷àëüíèê Òàðíîïîëüñêîãî ÓÍÊÂÄ Âàäèñ â àïðåëå 1940 ãîäà óòâåðæäàë, ÷òî "àêòèâèçàöèÿ àíòèñîâåòñêîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè ïðîõîäèëà íà ýòîò îòðåçîê âðåìåíè, êàê ïî ëèíèè ïîëüñêîé, òàê è óêðàèíñêîé êîíòððåâîëþöèè" . 21

Âåðîÿòíî, ó÷èòûâàÿ ýòè ñïåöèôè÷åñêèå óñëîâèÿ, âëàñòè áûëè âûíóæäåíû âûäâèãàòü â çàïàäíûõ îáëàñòÿõ Óêðàèíû êàäðû ïðåèìóùåñòâåííî óêðàèíñêîé íàöèîíàëüíîñòè.
http://www.hro.org/editions/karta/nr1011/fillip.htm
btw mr Mills I think you find it interesting too:
it gives examples of two regions that came in 1939 underSoviet control
One in Belorussia -Belostock region
out of the new apointees in postion of power 3214 were Belorussians, 613 Russians, 5195 - Poles, 2431- jews.
Second is in Ukraine -Dorogobich region Ukranians- 3214, Russians-1920, Poles -245, Jews - 336.

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