I've no doubt Polish sources can provide countless stories of atrocities committed by German forces in 1939. Equally, after 1939 the Germans were able to produce countless stories of atrocities carried out by Poles against them (some of the titles published back then can be found on the right-wing site http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/script ... index.html
All that this tells me is that Poles and Germans don't like each other very much, and each side invokes the "revenge" motive for the atrocities they commit upon each other, rather than admit to simple hatred as a motive.
If the point of this thread is to try and show that Germans are somehow worse people than Poles, it will fail because this is patently untrue. Humans are not good and evil according to their nationality. Can we all agree on this? Or is there some kind of atrocity competition going on here?
Yes, but the question is which stories are false and which are true. And, as I presume, this forum is to judge it. Actually I find statement like yours as a model one for revisionist attitude (although I am not saying by that your're revisist). I thought that nowadays there is no 'Polish side' and 'German side' and after the Nurimberg trial who is really guilty for all those horrids. Or maybe we should start inveting new histry???
I've been looking for some sources (in English) on Polish crime on Germans on the virge of outbreak of the war. All I could find was this Nazi Ministry of Foreign Affairs report, which is delibalaterly falsed to justify the invasion. This is strictly on events of 3.09.1939 in Bydgoszcz/Bromberg when German 'Vth collumn' attacked Polsih Army 'Pomorze' withdawing through the city. Some of the Germans were killed during the battle, some of them were executed as regular saboteurs on the basis of Polish law in the force at the time. There is naturally the question if this law was forced on reasonable basis in all the cases, and to what extend the uncontrolled mob, full of hatred and resentiment took part in it.
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Nazi propaganda inflated this to some ridiculous exted to justufy its own crimes:
Anyway, it's been discussed here long time before, so I don't want to ellaborate on it anymore. Besides this is still to be examined by the IPN:
In fact the argument "we humans are all like that" is not the case here, as if it was there would be no sense in mantaining e.g. forums like this one. We can not pass on accepting such a fact and we must not forget.
Perceiving it as a 'atrocities competition' is riduluous to me.
Anyway, the point is not which nation is better one (cause this is sensless as a rule) but the topic is Wehrmacht crimes in Poland and I see no reason why we should not talk about it. If you want to discuss Polish crimes in Poland in 1939 just start a new thread, why not taking a closer look at it also.
Besides, do you really believe that all of us - humans - are able to set death camps and plan genocide as a tool of regular policy?
I doubt that, I believe that majority of humans are righteous, otherwise the specie would have not existed for a long time.
Hitler lost the war all in all.