You wrote, "Besides negotiating with Allen Dulles and Jewish representatives in Switzerland, Himmler was also negotiating with Swedish officials, including Count Bernadotte."michael mills wrote: Incorrect
Bernadotte and the white busses appeared at the very end of WWII
Yeah right, and uncle Heinrich was not such a 'bad guy'...History showed that Himmler was a clown with a big C.michael mills wrote: Himmler had been trying to initiate secret negotiations with agents of the Western Allies ever since 1943 (secret = behind Hitler's back). Himmler had realised by then that the war could not be won by Germany, and that the only way out was a negotiated peace with the Western Allies, leaving Germany free to fight the Soviet Union to a standstill.
Allow me to smile. There is no proof , only a case of what you personally want to believe...michael mills wrote: Only Himmler was in a position to organise all of that, although his role remains clouded in secrecy).
michael mills wrote:The "Jews for trucks" deal, proposed in May when the deportations from Hungary were only just starting, was also a signal from Himmler to the Western Allies of his readiness to negotiate.
Says who? Are you Himmler? How can you know this?
Himmler and the Gestapo knew about the plot against Hitler in advance? Is that what you are saying?michael mills wrote: Another element was the fact that Himmler allowed the Wehrmacht plot against Hitler to proceed, even the Gestapo knew all about it. Himmler took no action against the plotters for a whole day, waiting to see what the outcome was, and only moved when it became clear that the assassination attempt had failed.
...slave labour... the Nazis were out to kill the Jews of Europe. Eichmann was the 'grand organiser' and his intention was to complete the work in Hungary.michael mills wrote: There subsequent smaller deportations to Austria, but these were for the purpose of providing a slave-labour force to build fortifications on the border.
Sure he did. Frankly it doesn't sound as if you know the first thing about what Wallenberg did in Budapest.michael mills wrote: There is no evidence that Wallenberg had any influence whatever on the trnasportation of Jews to Austria that occurred from October onward. At most, he played a role in protecting Jews in Budapest from the depredations of the Nyilas gangs.
Wallenberg played a BIG part in saving a substantial number of Jews in Budapest. If Eichmann had gotten his will through, there would have been no surviving Jews. As for Himmler's "half noble" intentions concerning the Jews... if it hadn't been such a horrible subject I would be laughing my head off.michael mills wrote: However, the survival of the large Jewish community in Budapest cannot be attributed to the activities of Anger or Wallenberg. In the first place, the Germans had already extracted as many Jews from Hungary as they needed for slave-labour in Germany and Austria. In the second place, Himmler was concerned to preserve a large number of Jews to use as bargaining chips in his negotiations with the Allies.
michael mills wrote: The exact date of Himmler's order to cease the selections for killing in the concentration camps is not known, but according to testimony it was toward the end of October 1944.
More statements for which there is no proof? Another case of what you want to believe maybe...
Wow, you really don't get it! Why don't you repeat that less than intelligent statement to some of the people Wallenberg, Anger and the others saved from the Holocaust. It's not like Eichmann and Himmler didn't try..michael mills wrote: Any statement that the activities of Anger and Wallenberg somehow "frustrated the Holocaust" is simply nonsense. At best their activities were marginal. They had no real influence on the outcome.
That is your opinion, and you are free to have it. The Swedish-Russian group responsible for investigating the Wallenberg case does not agree. They rule out your 'most likely explanation' because there is no evidence whatsoever to support it.michael mills wrote: In my opinion, the most likely explanation is that the SOviets suspected that he was somehow involved in Himmler's negotiations with the Western Allies, particularly as he was trying to use Sweden as a conduit.
Forget it. Wallenberg was sent to Budapest to save Jews, not negotiate a separate peace with Himmler.michael mills wrote: Whether Wallenberg was knowingly involved in such negotiations cannot be known.
michael mills wrote: But I think that his activity in issuing protective documents to Jews in Budapest, and his procurement of safe houses where they could be kept, was something that was surreptitiously allowed by Himmler in order to keep a substantial number of Jews "on ice" for the purpose of trading them.
You think! Eichmann wanted them dead.
I wonder how minor the people Eichmann could not lay hands on felt Wallenberg was...?michael mills wrote: Whatever Wallenberg's real role was, he was surely a very minor player in the convoluted series of events in Hungary between the German occupation in March 1944 and the Soviet conquest early in 1945.