Warsaw or Warschau photos

[zmisiek]

On the first photo is corner of Nowy ¦wiat street and ¦wiêtokrzyska street. View from the east to west.

[Fritz the Rat]

new address: http://www.death-camps.org (now with hyphen).

Fritz

[stcamp]

More fotos of the ghetto. None I own - All our autions happening on Ebay. The first are from 1941.

[stcamp]

On the previous 3 the small bundle on the steps looks a lot like a kid. These are from earlier - my guess is 1940. I ran into tech probs so I will just post this one.

[stcamp]

same series and time. The German looks as if he is carrying someone. The wooden wall is probably the original ghetto wall.

[stcamp]

I am not sure of these - possibly late 1941 - inside the ghetto

[PF]

Site of the Warsaw ghetto from "Life" Magazine November 19, 1945 page 110-111 {note must go to 2 page layout icon at top to see the whole photograph spread; is that Pawiak Prison at left and St Augustine church in right ?}
http://books.google.com/books?id=6UsEAA ... to&f=false

[PF]

In regard to http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 3&start=75 post Dec 13, 2005

Posting of German "Policemen" picture -what are the names?

related links:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=148611
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=148773
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=151040
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152574

[PF]

related links http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4#p1393934
related Links http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 11&start=0

[stcamp]

These are early war time period.

[Andreth]

You have gathered an amazing collection. The last picture is of course the same place as zmisiek correctly identified as the corner of Swietokrzyska and Nowy Swiat. The one you posted previously is curious, since it looks almost exactly like a photo in the book of T. Szarota "Okupowanej Warszawy dzien powszedni" (Everyday life in occupied Warsaw), with the board advertising glass panes (szyby) and furniture (meble) in the background. (Thus almost certainly 1939.) Only in Szarota's book there is a wagon carrying coffins in the foreground. In warsaw4.jpg one lamp post is removed, so I would say it is later than 1939 (everything that was metal was prone to removal by the Germans).

As for the bicycle shop, a sign in German is no proof that the shop was owned by a Volksdeutch, as it was speculated early in the thread. All Polish shops in Warsaw were supposed to have signs in German since late 1939 (Polish was allowed, but only together with German). It was not required for Jewish shops, so if you see Polish-only signs, good chance it's a ghetto photo. Speaking of which, a Jew with an armband may as well appear in a photo of pre-getto Warsaw or even post-ghetto 'aryan' part (some Jews were allowed movement outside getto). Jews in Warsaw were forced to wear armbands as early as 1 December 1939 (after Tomasz Szarota "Okupowanej Warszawy dzien powszedni"). So classification of a place is not always obvious.

warsaw19402007f.jpg looks suburbian, lots of space, low buildings. Nothing like the part surrounding ghetto (more like Praga, on the eastern side of Vistula). I think the wooden fence is just an ordinary fence.

Some photos can be found on Wikipedia Commons (in unlikely case you didn't spot them up to now: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... I_by_month).

[stcamp]

Thanks for the information. Without looking at my notes the police unit I think is PB 65? I remember it was assigned getto wache duties at the beginning of the enclosure. That is why I put them in the ghetto.

[Andreth]

Ghetto wooden wall was rather higher and had barbed wire on top. Here is a photo: http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/gallery/p075.htm. And 'your' fence looks too weather-worn (wooden ghetto wall did not stand for long).

BTW, somebody wondered why the same scenery occurs over and over again on different photos. Just a hypothesis - in Warsaw there were quite of lot of street photographers. If such a photographer worked in one fixed place, no wonder different photos (sold then to different people) have the same background.

[bigxmac]

These is the Hotel Europejski - Closed since June 2005
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The Hotel Europejski re-opened as the five star Raffles Europejski Warsaw in June 2018.

[offizier1916]

its just beyond my mind to see how horrible and Evil german occupation was. simply Barbarous. the SD/SS/Partei/ clique destroyed faith in humanity. All These civilians….These innocent People...expropriated, tortured and killed. Millions and Millions. And way too many war criminals escaped or were spared from proescution in after war Germany.