What kind of gun?

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What kind of gun?

Post by Ortwin » 08 Jun 2021 22:10

Hello,

can anybody help to identify the gun on the foto? Is this a british one or german? The foto was taken on a german Vp-boat in Norway.

Thanks a lot in advance!

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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by LineDoggie » 09 Jun 2021 03:45

Looks like a 6 pounder except for the breech
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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by Ortwin » 09 Jun 2021 22:33

So it ist british?
Perhaps a 4inch gun?
Is it possible that the breech had been removed?

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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by LineDoggie » 09 Jun 2021 23:05

Ortwin wrote:
09 Jun 2021 22:33
So it ist british?
Perhaps a 4inch gun?
Is it possible that the breech had been removed?
Just that there are some similarities such as the bolting on of the recuperater cap

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and what looks like the shoulder guard on the left side of the breech

JMO it isnt a UK 4 inch gun which in the various marks seem much bigger guns
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Nor a German 75mm
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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by Ortwin » 10 Jun 2021 06:06

Thanks for your information,
I attache the complete foto for a better assessability.
Yes, 4 inch gun seems to be bigger...
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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by ludvig » 11 Jun 2021 08:03

Hello Ortwin ,
J were tipping of by member Stril , your gun is an

76 mm L/28 HAK Mark iii from Bofors

( HAK = hurtig skytende automatkanon = QF gun

76 mm L 28 is an gun family with a naval verssion ( your photo ) , an submarine version
and AA - version . The Bofors factory museum at Karlskoga has photo of it marked
7,65 cm M /07

Deployment :
Norwegian :torpedoboats and guard skips
German : VP and some as LAG
Bergen naval base after 1945 as saluting battery at Haakonsvern ( Bugoe )
as memory gun at place called Fossen Bratte east of Bergen

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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by ludvig » 11 Jun 2021 08:15

Hello

Her is link to 76 mm Bofors gun :

https://digitaltmuseum.no/021018893946/ ... fra-baugen

Hope the links works outside Norway ???

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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by ludvig » 11 Jun 2021 08:23

Hello

Photo from Bergen naval base ( post war ) Link :

https://digitaltmuseum.no/021018892365/ ... annskapene

indirect link , type in MMU.944454-4

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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by Ortwin » 11 Jun 2021 22:09

Hello Ludvig,

thank you very much for this very important information. 76mm Bofors seems to be indeed correct! Nice link!
Do you know if this weapon also was used by the British Navy for converted trawlers in WW II?

Can you also give some information about the attached foto? Probably it was taken in Molde. Seems that this former british trawler (perhaps ex BRADMAN?) was equipped with this gun...
I am not sure if we see the same ship as in the foto I posted before.
What do you think?

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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by ludvig » 13 Jun 2021 12:19

Hello Ortwin
a) No connection with RN and this 76 mm HAK L/28 Bofors gun , but J have seen one 76 mm
Bofors as practise gun i England in WW 2 .
b) Molde Hafenschutzflotille / 68 . Vorpostenflotille only internet details
please see FB Norsk marinehistorie
c) the 76 mm HAK L/28 Bofors were used by 3 x big torpedoboats :
Trygg , Stegg and Snogg
Kjell
+ 17 guns on Norwegian guard ships in WW 1
Some use of guard ships in WW 2

Here is an newspaper link to the gun at Fossen Bratte

https://www.hf.no/nyhende/ser-mot-kvam- ... spirasjon/

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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by ludvig » 13 Jun 2021 12:41

Hello Ortwin
Your photo no 1 and photo no 2 from your post # 9 shows an

76 mm HAK L/50 Bofors gun

This gun were used on 3 x Norwegian destroyers :
Draug , Troll and Garm ( Draug escaped to UK , remaining in German service
as Zick and Zack ) 6 x guns each
Two Norwegian minelayers Glommen and Laugen , 2 x guns each
Some use in German VP as your photos shows

By rare coincidence the Norwegian Defense Museum published an good gun photo ,
please see Facebook and typed in Forsvarsmuseet

Here in photo of Draug on the route to England in 1940 :

https://digitaltmuseum.no/011012735090/ ... eren-draug

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Re: What kind of gun?

Post by Ortwin » 13 Jun 2021 18:41

Hello Ludvig,
thanks a lot for this very important und useful informations. I am going to send you an Email.
Best regards
Ortwin

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