Id. warship

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Re: Id. warship

Post by AVV » 23 Sep 2010 12:16

May be, a mock-up?

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Twilight » 23 Sep 2010 19:43

Hi.
Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,
Can somebody identify these ships? Very heavy armament!!
Can somebody help me with the guns? 2cm Flakvierling 38, 3.7cm ??? and 8.8cm ????
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Artillery landing barges - typ AF. Special, instead of reconstructed from landing barges.

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Re: Id. warship

Post by AVV » 23 Sep 2010 19:59

Twilight wrote:Artillery landing barges - typ AF.
Thanks! :)

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Re: Id. warship

Post by bechelaren » 23 Sep 2010 22:36

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Can somebody identify these ships? Very heavy armament!!
Can somebody help me with the guns? 2cm Flakvierling 38, 3.7cm ??? and 8.8cm ????

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Thanks in advance. Regards Sturm78
Hi Sturm,
adding to earlier information of Alex:
The ships are artillery feeries ( AFP) rather the artillery barges ( MAL)
The photo shows two of AFPs of 6. Artillerieträger-Flottille ( AFP Squadron) in a S-boat bunker in Cherbourg in 1944.
They belonged to Gruppe Karl (Karl - Group) commanded by Oblt z S Otto Karl

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Re: Id. warship

Post by igorr » 24 Sep 2010 07:47

Very good identifying, Twilight and bechelaren!
I only think, this cant't be 6 AT Flotille, because this unit have no MFP typ D, as we see on photo. This must be 8 AT flotille and some AF in range AF.97 - AF.112.
And this is 8.8-cm/35 gun, one 3.7-cm/30 and flakvierling on photo.

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Sep 2010 09:27

Thank you very much for your help, Alex, bechelaren and igorr. :D

I am a little confused after reading your answers: Artilleriefährprähme (AFP) or Marinefährprähme Typ D (MFP) ?? :?

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Re: Id. warship

Post by igorr » 24 Sep 2010 11:42

Artilleriefährprähme based on MFP typ D - only this prahme have big guns (8.8) with shilds. On photo of course AF typ D1 or D2.

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Sep 2010 16:58

Thanks, again, igorr.

Does you have some more images of Artilleriefährprähme?

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Re: Id. warship

Post by igorr » 24 Sep 2010 17:18

Sorry - no.

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Polar bear » 25 Sep 2010 22:29

hello,
Waleed Y. Majeed wrote:Probably a US Illinois-class ship.
waleed
correct :D
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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 26 Sep 2010 11:04

Hi all,

R-Boot ??

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Twilight » 26 Sep 2010 13:24

Hi;

Yes. Typ R-17. Possibly, in France.

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Polar bear » 26 Sep 2010 17:32

hi
Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,
Image from Ebay
Regards Sturm78
flottilla´s coat of arms, visible at the bow, is - as a tradition - being carried by the German navy´s 5th minesweeper squadron
Peace hath her victories no less renowned than War
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Re: Id. warship

Post by igorr » 26 Sep 2010 18:00

German minesweepers bore name Minensucher. On photo we see Raumboot, much small ship with Diesel engine. AFAIK, this named motor minesweeper in english. Additionaly, Kriegsmarine hasn't any minesweeper squadron. Do you mean 5 R.-flotilla?

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Polar bear » 26 Sep 2010 20:20

hi
igorr wrote:German minesweepers bore name Minensucher. On photo we see Raumboot, much small ship with Diesel engine. AFAIK, this named motor minesweeper in english. Additionaly, Kriegsmarine hasn't any minesweeper squadron. Do you mean 5 R.-flotilla?
No. German navy is the official name of the "Bundesmarine/Deutsche Marine" (since 1955)
Peace hath her victories no less renowned than War
(John Milton, the poet, in a letter to the Lord General Cromwell, May 1652)

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