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Re: Id. warship

Post by Polar bear » 24 Nov 2014 22:59

hi,
kgvm wrote: The picture was taken in spring 1941, when she was still the "Dubrovnik". Later the vessel carried other camouflage-schemes.
I wonder whether that's true. The three soldiers in front of the ship seem to wear German uniforms and the armoured car on the left side seems to be German. Could the picture be taken in the Fall of 1943 with the still Italian ship ?

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Re: Id. warship

Post by kgvm » 25 Nov 2014 13:09

Yes, it's a German armoured car and German soldiers. But why not? The Germans met with the Italians which attacked along the coast at Dubrovnik, but they came to Kotor, too. In the Bundesarchiv is a good number of pictures showing the Yugoslavian vessels there, taken in 1941 by Arndt, very probably a German war reporter (PK-Berichter).
And: in September 1943 the "Premuda" was at Genua, the background simply doesn't fit for this port.

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Polar bear » 25 Nov 2014 13:27

hi,
kgvm wrote:In the Bundesarchiv is a good number of pictures showing the Yugoslavian vessels there, taken in 1941 by Arndt, very probably a German war reporter (PK-Berichter). And: in September 1943 the "Premuda" was at Genua, the background simply doesn't fit for this port.
I agree that the picture wasn't taken at Genoa and that your arguments make sense but Arndt's picture shows a different camouflage (?), as well.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... chiffe.jpg

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Re: Id. warship

Post by kgvm » 25 Nov 2014 13:35

Yes, but it's the other side of the ship, so the scheme might have been different on both sides - the ships didn't leave the port in April 1941, so this might make sense?

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Dec 2014 14:39

Hi all,

Dunkerque or Strasbourg ??

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Post by kgvm » 09 Dec 2014 17:56

"Strasbourg".

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Post by Sturm78 » 09 Dec 2014 18:53

Thank you, kgvm

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Dec 2014 10:25

Hi all,

Can anyone identify these Finnish ships ??

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Ruotsinsalmi » 27 Dec 2014 15:20

In the first photo is one of the VMV:s on the dock. Here is something to read about them. http://www.scribd.com/doc/27786480/The- ... eng-Jaakko.
The VMV:s (in finnish Vartiomoottorivene) were very reliable and multipurpose boats, IMHO there should have been many more of them. Some of them served as motortorpedoboats, later many of them were equipped with 40 mm Bofors and 20 mm Madsen, some boats had 3 Madsens.

In the other photo there is three finnish motor torpedo boats, on the left you can see one of the four Thornycroft boats, behind it is an italian made MAS-boat, one of two boats bought in 1920, and in the center of the photo is finnish made experimental boat, witch had Thornycroft hull with italian type torpedo dropping equipments.

Here you can read more of them. http://smallcrafthistory.weebly.com/vmv.html

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 30 Dec 2014 10:56

Thank you very much for your help, Pekka :)

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Jan 2015 21:14

Hi all,

Any idea about this ship ?? :?

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Peter K. » 05 Jan 2015 12:38

... it´s a Artilleriefährprahm of the very rare type A-C2.
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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Jan 2015 13:20

Thank you very much for your help, Peter K. :)

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Sturm78 » 08 Jan 2015 22:31

Hi all,

Any idea about this small boat ??

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Re: Id. warship

Post by Ruotsinsalmi » 09 Jan 2015 15:06

According to war diary of Merivoimien Esikunta (Headquarter of Finnish Naval Forces) 6.10.1941 http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=3612386, finns found near Äänislinna (Petrozavodsk) one motortorpedoboat, which was missing the propeller and the transmission was broken.
Could it be a 40' Thornycroft or some russian version of it? AFAIK finns never repaired the boat?
Here is an inside photo of it (SA-Kuva nr. 56230)

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