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Re: Sea mines

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Post by LWD » 29 Jan 2014, 21:00

I didn't say that but I do agree with it. Looks like you may have missed deleteing a bracket pairing.
Also thanks to Natter for the info about the above being incomplete.

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Apr 2014, 12:14

Hi all,

An image from EBay:

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Aug 2014, 13:35

Hi all,

Another image from EBay. I am not sure about the model

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Jan 2015, 16:33

Hi all,

Can somebody identify the model of this sea mine ?? Soviet ?

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 10 Jan 2015, 19:42

My best guess is that it is a german type EMD contact mine from which the horn fuzes have already been removed. source "U S Navy Mine Disposal Handbook, March 1 1945, part IV, German Underwater Ordnance, Chap 2, page 41.
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Post by Sturm78 » 12 Jan 2015, 17:31

Thank you, ROLAND1369

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Jan 2015, 17:15

Hi all,

Another sea mine. Any idea about the model ??

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Re: Sea mines

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Post by Natter » 22 Jan 2015, 18:08

Considering the source - maybe russian? Perhaps a M12 variant.

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Post by Natter » 22 Jan 2015, 18:13

Here is a photo of the russian M12 (from M.Dv.Nr.454 Anleitung zum Bergen und Entschärfen deutscher und fremder Sperrwaffen):
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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Jan 2015, 11:05

Thank you very much for your answer, Natter.

I think probably you are right,...though the mind of my image have some additional elements welded to the body.... :?

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Post by Natter » 23 Jan 2015, 17:03

Sturm78 wrote:I think probably you are right,...though the mind of my image have some additional elements welded to the body.... :?
Yes, hence my "variant" note.

I'm not sure about the date of your photo, or wether the fins used russian mines at some time? It could be a finnish modification, or a mine used for another purpose.

Seamines are among the weapon systems that have seen most modifications and alternations over the year, as in particular old systems have been reused for newer generation of weaponsystems.

Examples:
Post-war norwegian N46 and N49 systems: Reusing german and british minecupolas and anchors, and modifying the detonatingsystems.
Controllable US Mk 51 mines from early 1940's were modified several times by RNoN, the last time in the 1990's: Reusing only the refurbished steelbody with new explosives and brand new computerized control electronics.

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Re: Sea mines

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Jan 2015, 21:26

Thank you, Natter, The date of my last image is Nov.1941

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Post by Natter » 23 Jan 2015, 21:52

Sturm78 wrote:Thank you, Natter, The date of my last image is Nov.1941
The edition of M.Dv.Nr.454 I used is from 1942, but it has been updated with corrections and additional pages until at least 1944.
Wether all variants of all mines have been recorded by the germans at this time is hard to tell. Provided there were some intelligence-cooperation with Finland, I think it's likely to assume they should know about this variant though (it might indicate this was some sort of finish modification or reuse).
Someone with better knowledge of finnish mine warfare might ellaborate...

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Post by Sturm78 » 06 Apr 2015, 19:41

Hi all,

Can anyone identify the model of these sea mines in Finnish Navy service ??

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Re: Sea mines

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Apr 2015, 10:37

Nobody for my last image ??

Here, another image form SA-Kuva archive (88648). I am not sure, but I think EMC German sea mines, probably. Is this correct ??

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