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Re: Sea mines

Post by Natter » 18 May 2015 10:43

Yes

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 19 May 2015 10:35

Thank you, Natter

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Jul 2015 10:40

Hi all,

An image from EBay. According to photocaption, German AEG mine from WW1

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Aug 2015 09:29

Nobody ??

Well, here another image from EBay. Can somebody identify these mines ??

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Re: Sea mines

Post by ROLAND1369 » 21 Aug 2015 14:02

My best guess would be German EMC 1 (German nomenclature EMC mit K.A.)

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Natter » 21 Aug 2015 20:43

I don't know which type, but it's not EMC mit K.A. (ref attached illustration).
Strange anchors... maybe a non-german or pre-WW2 system?
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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Aug 2015 08:29

Thank you for your answers, ROLAND1369 and Natter

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 29 Aug 2015 11:30

Hi all,

Can somebody identify the model of these mines in Finnish Navy service ?

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 06 Oct 2015 15:30

Nobody ??

Well, here another image from SA-Kuva archive (150789)
Can somebody identify the model of these sea mines ??

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 29 Nov 2015 15:07

Nobody for my last images ??

Well, here another image from SA-Kuva archive (158501) Any idea about the model ?? :?

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 22 Feb 2016 09:38

Nobody for my last images ?? :cry:


Well, here another two images. I am not sure: EMC ??

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Natter » 22 Feb 2016 13:53

Sturm78 wrote:Nobody for my last images ??
No idea, but judging from the rivets in the anchor, it's a fairly old system.
Sturm78 wrote:Well, here another two images. I am not sure: EMC ??
No. Although the cupola match the EMC, all 7 EMC variants have acid-horns, and the mines in your photos seems (at first glance) to be influence mines.
I don't know for sure, but the only german candidate I can find is the magnetic EMF (see attached images), but it's not the correct cupola...

As the photos are from Norway, I think a norwegian "pendelstossmine" might be an option (ie a contactmine with internal pendolum-mechanism like the M/1911, M/1913 and M/1917):
The mine in your first photo seems to have a german anchor, but it's plausible they made a "hybrid" utilizing surplus materiel (post-war, we made several "new" minesystems using different combinations of norwegian/british/german cupolas, anchors and sensors/igniting-systems - like the N26, N29 and N49 mines).

I have seen a photo claiming to be of a german non-explosive sweep-obstructor using an EMC-type cupola, but it's not documented in any of my german manuals (also, it had a couple of - presumably fake - horns on top...).
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Re: Sea mines

Post by Juha Tompuri » 25 Feb 2016 19:57

Natter wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:Nobody for my last images ??
No idea, but judging from the rivets in the anchor, it's a fairly old system.
From 1944 :)
...but using also older parts, as you noticed.

Finnish assault mine type X2
It was designed to float to their destination area with a sail attached or just by currents.
The mine assembly contained a delay fuse, which would activate the anchoring system, and the mine would then anchor itself at the estimated (enemy) area as any normal contact mine.

Photos from http://sa-kuva.fi/ #158501-158508
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1831928

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Natter » 25 Feb 2016 20:08

Juha Tompuri wrote:
Natter wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:Nobody for my last images ??
No idea, but judging from the rivets in the anchor, it's a fairly old system.
From 1944 :)
...but using also older parts, as you noticed.

Finnish assault mine type X2
It was designed to float to their destination area with a sail attached or just by currents.
:thumbsup:

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Re: Sea mines

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Feb 2016 10:31

Juha wrote
From 1944 :)
...but using also older parts, as you noticed.

Finnish assault mine type X2
It was designed to float to their destination area with a sail attached or just by currents.
The mine assembly contained a delay fuse, which would activate the anchoring system, and the mine would then anchor itself at the estimated (enemy) area as any normal contact mine.
Thanks for your help, Juha

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