What kind of destroyer, Z 4 ?

[wolf-hound]

Hi! What kind of destroyer, and why he had no gun?Trondheim.
Z 4 ("Richard Beitzen") ????May be Z 5 or Z 6?

[igorr]

According to S. Patyanin's opinion, this is Z 6 in april 1940

[wolf-hound]

Hi! Thank you very much.

[Andy H]

Hi

Well this class of DD's were supposed to have five 5in (5x1) but in that picture the number 1 mount seems to be absent, so I'm guessing its been landed for repair or replacement

Regards

Andy H

[igorr]

Gun was dismantled for use in shore warfire by gebirgsjagern.

[Andy H]

Gun was dismantled for use in shore warfire by gebirgsjagern.

Hi Igorr

Assuming the 1940 date to be correct! was this gun returned to the vessel after the Gebirgs troops had finished with it-though I thought they would have utilised the guns naval personnel to operate it?

Regards

Andy H

[igorr]

Of course gun was returned after the battle. Further details not known to me.

[Andy H]

Of course gun was returned after the battle. Further details not known to me.

Hi

So thats an assumption on your part which I can understand, rather than a stated fact?

Regards

Andy H

[igorr]

Photos after 1940 shows ships with all guns in places.

[stril]

Photos after 1940 shows ships with all guns in places.

Perhaps i got it wrong, but as i have understood it it was the torpedtubes that they removed and used on a floating torpedobatterie.
regards
stril

[igorr]

Not Z.6 for sure. Errr, if we believe to Groener, till the end of war all German DD's has their torpedo tubes in place.

[stril]

Not Z.6 for sure. Errr, if we believe to Groener, till the end of war all German DD's has their torpedo tubes in place.

Im just refering to the KTB. The torpedotubes was removed and used as a temporary floating torpedobatterie just outside Trondheim. Not sure if it was Z6, ill find out if its important. Added a link from Tore Eggans website, showing the temporary torpedobattery.
regards
stril
http://www.krigsbilder.net/coppermine/d ... &pid=31795

[stril]

Added part of a photo showing Z6 in Trondheim. As mentioned earlier in this tread the first photo should then be Z6 as stated by Igorr.
regards
stril

[AVV]

Hello!

Added part of a photo showing Z6 in Trondheim.

Nice photo, thanks for posting it! Do you know what successes are shown on Z6 scoreboard in this photo?

Best regards, Aleks

[Andy H]

Photos after 1940 shows ships with all guns in places.

I don't doubt that. My question revolves around the alleged gun that was removed. For all we know it could have been damaged or destroyed or left behind, and another gun fitted at a later stage-Unless of course your telling me that the same gun was returned after its use on land!

Regards

Andy H