Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

ludvig · Post by **ludvig** » 24 Jan 2012 09:16

Hello Vladlex,
10,5 cm S.K.C/32 L in 8,8 cm M.P.L. C/30 D notice the Pittler- Thoma
traversing drive to left on photo .
Secondary sources :
Waffen - Arsenal Sonderband S - 15
Klaus Hupp : Bei der Marineflak ( zur Verteidigung der
Stadt und Festung Kiel im 2. Weltkrieg )
Regards
ludvig

vladalex · Post by **vladalex** » 24 Jan 2012 12:03

Thank you Ludvig,
What mean L ?
Regards,
VladAlex.

ludvig · Post by **ludvig** » 24 Jan 2012 15:44

Hello Vladalex,
L = Ladevorrictung = semi - automatic breech gear attached
to left side of breech . It is used ( not always ) with the loading
engine , electric motor driving some horisontal rods via two worm
wheels down veritical rod which drives a rubber diabola inside the breech .
This is at the top / above the gun barrel .

Ladevorrictung you will find at 10,5 cm S.K.C. 32 L + 10,5 cm S.K.C.32 n. L.
+ 10,5 cm S.K.C. 32 n. S , the other versions are handworked breeches .

Same system used on Luftwaffe 10,5 cm + 12,8 cm Flak guns.

Regards
ludvig

vladalex · Post by **vladalex** » 25 Jan 2012 11:01

ludvig wrote:Hello Vladalex,

Same system used on Luftwaffe 10,5 cm + 12,8 cm Flak guns.

Regards
ludvig

Thank you,
Represent this pictures what you tell me ?

vladalex · Post by **vladalex** » 29 Jan 2012 19:59

Hello everybody,

1) As a supplement at post from 10 Dec. 2011 , I post the drawing of the gun - because now is in a better stage .
2) For gun lovers , I post a gift-draw from my personal collection , MkXIII .
3) I post a personal sketch of 8,8cm LC/25 and ask for some picture, that help to me to "make this gun real" - of course
the final drawing will be posted on this forum .
Please give pointers and comments , this will help me ...

Best Regards ,
VladAlex.

vladalex · Post by **vladalex** » 02 Feb 2012 23:34

Hello everybody ,
In section Fortifications & Artilery at : Id. naval guns by Sturm78 on 13 Jan 2012, 11:05 , I saw a picture about an 10,5cm
u. Tbts L/45 gun . I re-post this picture for a question .
Can any of you tell me how many wheels (with "tooth") for elevating the gun-barrel have this gun , one ore two ? .
Thanks in advance .
Best Regards,
VladAlex.

ludvig · Post by **ludvig** » 03 Feb 2012 09:05

Hello Vladalex ,
Only one " Höhenrichtzahnbogen " ( = elevating rack )
You will a detailed descrition in Waffen - Revue nr 34
Regards
ludvig

vladalex · Post by **vladalex** » 03 Feb 2012 13:11

Hello Ludvig,
Thank you for response . I have not posibility or oportunitty to see Waffen - Revue nr 34 , but I found this response in
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:10.5 ... _L45_7.jpg
Best Regards,
VladAlex.

vladalex · Post by **vladalex** » 06 Feb 2012 17:27

vladalex wrote:Hello everybody,
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Please give pointers and comments , this will help me ...
Best Regards ,
VladAlex.

No pointers , no comments , no help ...
To day I modified the drawing after one week of comparisson with different pictures . This is final form .
Regards,
VladAlex.

vladalex · Post by **vladalex** » 09 Feb 2012 16:40

As I told everybody , because I progressed I post now two variants of 10,5cm S.K. C/32 n.L. on 8,8cm M.P.L. C30D g.E.in wich is different only the base and shape of deck-protection shield.
Best Regards,
VladAlex.

P.S.
" Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32
by ludvig on 10 Jan 2012, 17:12

Hello Vladalex ,
Back to your post dated 03 Jan 2012 20:20
To many combinations - -
The 10,5 cm S.K.C/32 system have 8 x different gun barrels , but only
5 x mounts / carriages :
"
Please Ludvig tell me more about these 8 different gun barrels ...

napy · Post by **napy** » 10 Feb 2012 13:48

Hello to eveybody, this is a gun onboard TA 32, wich type of 10,5 gun is it?

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Best Regards

Marco Ghiglino

ludvig · Post by **ludvig** » 10 Feb 2012 17:05

Hello Napy ,
Thanks for the good photo !
It is an German :
10,5 cm S.K.C/32 n S in 10,5 cm M.P.L C/32 g.E. ( Schützschild )
Notice the box at top of the barrel which is the cover for the loading
engine / Ansetzer + the two large " Viserklappen " turning / hinged inwards
to the gun barrel . The 10,5 cm S.K.C / 32 n S has the increased elevation to
+ 70 and with semiautomatic breech + loading engine = fast RPM .
regards
ludvig

vladalex · Post by **vladalex** » 10 Feb 2012 17:22

Hello Napy ,
In adittion to the Ludvig response , I attach the coresponding drawing for this type of gun, just finished .
Any comment will be very helpfull for me ...
Best Regards ,
VladAlex.

napy · Post by **napy** » 10 Feb 2012 17:25

REally thanks alot for your cooperation and your deeeep cpmpetence.

Napy

ludvig · Post by **ludvig** » 11 Feb 2012 15:56

hello Vladalex ,
J have not forgotten you - - -
A) Your posting 15 . Jan 2012 your drawing is fine , but the designation is :
10,5 cm S.K..C/32 U in 10,5 cm Ubts L. C/36
B) Yyour posting 06 . Feb 2012 your drawing is good , but , but designation is :
10,5 cm S.K.C 32 U in 10,5 cm Ubts L. C/36 ( not L.M. C/36 D ) . D = is used
for the 360 degrees shield of the the German " Schildkröten " type . The four
sided shield , have not find any German name for it .
C) Your posting 09. Feb 2012 , hmm
- from your drawing is unclear what sort of 10,5 cm gun barrel which is laid
into the 8,8 cm M.P.L.C/30 mount .
10,5 cm S.K.C/32 n.L. in 8,8 cm M.P.L.C/30 ( not the 8,8 cm M.P.L.C/30
D g. E.) the g.E mounts are used for the 10,5 cm S.K.C/32 n .S. nothing
to do with the 8,8 cm M.P.L C/30 mount
D)Your posting 10. Feb 2012 ,
Excellent drawing and 100 % correction designation

regards
ludvig