How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
When the landings in Normandy and Toulon area pinched off those South and West respectively. Just VPs and similar auxiliary vessels?
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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
hi,
afaik, not even those. Most of them went down fighting. I do not know any unit that went to Spain.
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afaik, not even those. Most of them went down fighting. I do not know any unit that went to Spain.
greetings, the pb
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(John Milton, the poet, in a letter to the Lord General Cromwell, May 1652)
Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
Polar bear wrote:hi, afaik, not even those. Most of them went down fighting. I do not know any unit that went to Spain.
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Yes You are right pb. The only boat I know is T 28, which fought through into the home through the English Channel on adventurous sort.
Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
Hello!
Max Stinsky was interned in Spain in 1944 (after she was damaged in fight with Allied warships, IIRC).
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Stinsky_%281940%29
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Max Stinsky was interned in Spain in 1944 (after she was damaged in fight with Allied warships, IIRC).
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Stinsky_%281940%29
Best regards, Aleks
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hi, Aleks,
"Max Stinsky", however, belonged to the Luftwaffe and not to the Kriegsmarine.
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"Max Stinsky", however, belonged to the Luftwaffe and not to the Kriegsmarine.
greetings, the pb
Peace hath her victories no less renowned than War
(John Milton, the poet, in a letter to the Lord General Cromwell, May 1652)
(John Milton, the poet, in a letter to the Lord General Cromwell, May 1652)
Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
Polar bear wrote:"Max Stinsky", however, belonged to the Luftwaffe and not to the Kriegsmarine.
Yes, of course. Still, she was a ship.
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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
Thank you for all of your replies. I did not know about the Max Stinsky.
Was not T-28 based at Le Harve east of the Normany Allied landings? No surface vessel west of Utah Beach escaped to the East.
Was not T-28 based at Le Harve east of the Normany Allied landings? No surface vessel west of Utah Beach escaped to the East.
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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
The Imelmann, another seaplane tender of the Karl Meyer class (like the Max Stinsky), was also interned in Spain in August 1944.
Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
Hello!
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Was it she who was damaged in fight with Allied warships or was it Stinsky?Ironmachine wrote:The Imelmann, another seaplane tender of the Karl Meyer class (like the Max Stinsky), was also interned in Spain in August 1944.
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I don't know.Was it she who was damaged in fight with Allied warships or was it Stinsky?
Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
OK. I've come across this info at Russian guidebook on Kriegsmarine. I'll try to check this book in the evening.Ironmachine wrote:I don't know.
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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
That's correct. She was part of 5th Torpedo Flotilla in Le Havre, so would not have been able to get to Spain in any case.Felix C wrote:Thank you for all of your replies. I did not know about the Max Stinsky.
Was not T-28 based at Le Harve east of the Normany Allied landings? No surface vessel west of Utah Beach escaped to the East.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4&t=186071
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?
Hm-m... It was Richthofen, while Allied ships were HMS Mauritius, HMS Ursa and HMCS Iroquois .AVV wrote:I'll try to check this book in the evening.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richthofen_(1942)
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