How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

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How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by Felix C » 09 Mar 2012 17:42

When the landings in Normandy and Toulon area pinched off those South and West respectively. Just VPs and similar auxiliary vessels?

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by Polar bear » 09 Mar 2012 23:42

hi,

afaik, not even those. Most of them went down fighting. I do not know any unit that went to Spain.

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by Mischa » 12 Mar 2012 08:59

Polar bear wrote:hi, afaik, not even those. Most of them went down fighting. I do not know any unit that went to Spain.
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Yes You are right pb. The only boat I know is T 28, which fought through into the home through the English Channel on adventurous sort.

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by AVV » 12 Mar 2012 09:09

Hello!
Max Stinsky was interned in Spain in 1944 (after she was damaged in fight with Allied warships, IIRC).
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Stinsky_%281940%29

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by Polar bear » 12 Mar 2012 09:47

hi, Aleks,

"Max Stinsky", however, belonged to the Luftwaffe and not to the Kriegsmarine.

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by AVV » 12 Mar 2012 10:33

Polar bear wrote:"Max Stinsky", however, belonged to the Luftwaffe and not to the Kriegsmarine.

Yes, of course. Still, she was a ship. :wink:

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by Felix C » 13 Mar 2012 01:13

Thank you for all of your replies. I did not know about the Max Stinsky.

Was not T-28 based at Le Harve east of the Normany Allied landings? No surface vessel west of Utah Beach escaped to the East.
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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by Ironmachine » 13 Mar 2012 08:32

The Imelmann, another seaplane tender of the Karl Meyer class (like the Max Stinsky), was also interned in Spain in August 1944.

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by AVV » 13 Mar 2012 08:57

Hello!
Ironmachine wrote:The Imelmann, another seaplane tender of the Karl Meyer class (like the Max Stinsky), was also interned in Spain in August 1944.
Was it she who was damaged in fight with Allied warships or was it Stinsky?

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by Ironmachine » 14 Mar 2012 08:18

Was it she who was damaged in fight with Allied warships or was it Stinsky?
I don't know.

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by AVV » 14 Mar 2012 08:42

Ironmachine wrote:I don't know.
OK. I've come across this info at Russian guidebook on Kriegsmarine. I'll try to check this book in the evening.

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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by Urmel » 14 Mar 2012 16:53

Felix C wrote:Thank you for all of your replies. I did not know about the Max Stinsky.

Was not T-28 based at Le Harve east of the Normany Allied landings? No surface vessel west of Utah Beach escaped to the East.
That's correct. She was part of 5th Torpedo Flotilla in Le Havre, so would not have been able to get to Spain in any case.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4&t=186071
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Re: How many naval ships fled to Spain in 1944?

Post by AVV » 14 Mar 2012 18:17

AVV wrote:I'll try to check this book in the evening.
Hm-m... It was Richthofen, while Allied ships were HMS Mauritius, HMS Ursa and HMCS Iroquois .
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richthofen_(1942)

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