Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

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Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by bertamingo » 19 Apr 2014 09:11

Hello everyone, greetings! I am interested in WW2 German warships and are collecting their photos. I was wondering if anyone could help me with photos of the following ships? I only need photos that were taken when in Kriegsmarine/Luftwaffe service, so any pre-war or post-war photos of these ships will be ruled out. Thank you very much for your assistance in advance!
ship list:
fighter direction ship Kreta
mine transports: MT1, MT2 (old ships from WW1)
target control ships: Pfeil, Komet (ex-WW1 torpedo boats)
fast escort: SG18, SG23
minelayer: Xanten (ex-WW1 minesweeper)
s-boat tenders: Samoa, Buea
u-boat tender: Ammerland
diver training boat: Taucher
torpedo recovery boats: any of the TF1-24
river flak ships: Albert Leo Schlageter, Ernst Moritz Arndt
river patrol launch motherships: Kriemhild-class
floating power plants (Schwimmede Kraftanlagen) for u-boats
special ships(German Q-ships)
tenders of U.A.K.: any ship except Messina
special escort/motherships
coalships
lightships
danlayers
munition/weapon transports
wounded transports (VTS)
safety ships (Sicherheitsschiffe)
smoke-screen boats
fireboats, dredgers, water and oil barges
fjord landing boats (small landing boats produced in Norwegian shipyards)
captured ex-US/UK LCU,LCT etc.(e.g.Dieppe)
captured minesweepers from Denmark/Italy/Poland
Luftwaffe aircraft transport Bucherest
WW2 German police patrol boats

Further, I am interested to know information of the following ships:
KJ boats, I guess KJ is coastal hunter boat? Saw one photo of KJ25, which was a former RN motorlaunch
GA boats, I guess GA is foreign escort? saw some photos of various boats with such designations
B boats, are these danlayers, or patrol boats?
flakjagers, are these patrol boats with enhanced flak armament?
light barrier ships? saw one with name DK5, a converted ferry used in harbour flotilla, with a large search light.

Regrads!

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by Polar bear » 20 Apr 2014 15:54

hi,
bertamingo wrote: s-boat tenders: Buea
not a photo, but http://www.foerderverein-museums-schnel ... r/buea.htm

greetings, the pb
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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by geahanse » 21 Apr 2014 17:55

http://www.germaniainternational.com/navy.html. There's ten full pages here

http://www.everythingworldwar2.com/worl ... war_2.html. This Web page has a list of sites you should browse through

http://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/ww ... rships.asp You will find pictures here as well

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by bertamingo » 21 Apr 2014 19:10

Polar bear wrote:hi,
bertamingo wrote: s-boat tenders: Buea
not a photo, but http://www.foerderverein-museums-schnel ... r/buea.htm

greetings, the pb
In fact, I have already checked that site and saved that picture, now only the real photo is missing. Thank you all the same :lol:

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by bertamingo » 21 Apr 2014 19:22

geahanse wrote:http://www.germaniainternational.com/navy.html. There's ten full pages here

http://www.everythingworldwar2.com/worl ... war_2.html. This Web page has a list of sites you should browse through

http://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/ww ... rships.asp You will find pictures here as well
I have taken a quick view though these sites, it seems that most of them do not have aux. ship section while the few that do have been checked already. But, I do find some photos that are very useful, thank you for the links :D

By now I have a photo collection of hundreds of Kriegsmarine ships, which I believe has covered most of the KM ship types, including some rare ones, for example the fire control training ship Carl Zeiss. Of course for certain ships, like trawler/whaler based patrol boats, sub-chasers etc., since they mostly look similar, I only saved a few photos. But for unique-looking ships, I try to save all available photos and pictures. The list in OP includes rarely seen ship types that are relatively hard to find :)

P.S. Of the ships in the OP list, I have found photos of the floating powerplants and the police patrol boats.

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by Larrister » 27 Apr 2014 00:08

From one of my albums, MT1.

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by bertamingo » 27 Apr 2014 02:29

Larrister wrote:From one of my albums, MT1.

Cheers,
Larry
Thank you very much! The ship is definitely MT1, but do you happen to know why it got the MZ1? pennant number? Was it reclassified as other vessel after the outbreak of WW2 for this new designation?

PS: the following ships' photos have been found--fast escort SG23, minelayer Xanten.

I am searching for photos of the following kriegsmarine minelayers also:
Elsass, Wullenvever, Oldenburg, Westmark, Linz, Lauting(mine transport), Rhein (mine transport)

Any help will be greatly appreciated :)

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by Larrister » 27 Apr 2014 03:48

Hi Bertamingo,

I have no data that shows that MT1 was redesignated MZ1 after the start of WW2.
It was a MW1 class boat named Heppens up to 1930 then redesignated MT1. Used by the Russians after the war.

The name on the boat in the photo is MT1 in Fractur Script? The photo is from a WW2 album which mainly shows service in France.
The photo in question could of course have been taken some time before the start of hostilities.

Can you or someone else identify the port shown in the first photo.

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Larry
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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by bertamingo » 27 Apr 2014 16:29

Larrister wrote:Hi Bertamingo,

I have no data that shows that MT1 was redesignated MZ1 after the start of WW2.
It was a MW1 class boat named Heppens up to 1930 then redesignated MT1. Used by the Russians after the war.

The name on the boat in the photo is MT1 in Fractur Script? The photo is from a WW2 album which mainly shows service in France.
The photo in question could of course have been taken some time before the start of hostilities.

Can you or someone else identify the port shown in the first photo.

Cheers,
Larry
Interesting information. These two ships of MW1 class were a special case, because most other WW2 Kriegsmarine Germany-built ships which had served in WW1 seemed to be either the pre-dreadnaughts, cruisers, torpedo boats and minesweepers, or former auxiliaries converted back to civilian use post-WW1 and then converted back again to military in WW2. Only MT1/2 and the tender Nordsee were exceptions.

Unfortunately I am unable to ID the port, hopefully sb else will :D

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 29 Apr 2014 01:02

Gentlemen,

I wonder what river flak ships looks like too. I wonder if some of them were used against Soviet motorboats and landing craft in a few months left of World War II for Germany in 1945? Riverboat battles in Germany is an unknown topic. Not intense like the US Civil War river battles of 1861 to 1865.

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by Maxschnauzer » 29 Apr 2014 09:52

Larrister wrote:Hi Bertamingo,

I have no data that shows that MT1 was redesignated MZ1 after the start of WW2.
It was a MW1 class boat named Heppens up to 1930 then redesignated MT1. Used by the Russians after the war.

The name on the boat in the photo is MT1 in Fractur Script? The photo is from a WW2 album which mainly shows service in France.
The photo in question could of course have been taken some time before the start of hostilities.

Can you or someone else identify the port shown in the first photo.

Cheers,
Larry
You're correct, in Fraktur font that reads MT1:
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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by Larrister » 29 Apr 2014 12:20

Thanks Max. :D

Larry

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by bertamingo » 30 Apr 2014 17:44

Edward L. Hsiao wrote:Gentlemen,

I wonder what river flak ships looks like too. I wonder if some of them were used against Soviet motorboats and landing craft in a few months left of World War II for Germany in 1945? Riverboat battles in Germany is an unknown topic. Not intense like the US Civil War river battles of 1861 to 1865.

Sincerely,

Edward L. Hsiao
The river flak ships were converted civilian passenger/ferry ships armed with light AA guns, but no pictures seem to exist. The only photos of German WW2 riverine vessels are those of river monitors and river minesweepers. :wink:

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 01 May 2014 05:28

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your information of the armament of the river flak ships. Can someone please show us a few pictures of German river monitors. As I recalled a German river monitor participated in the bombardment of Warsaw,Poland during the uprising on 1944. I forgot what book I read that mentions the monitor bombardment. Was it true?

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Re: Looking for WW2 German auxiliary ship photos

Post by Peter K. » 01 May 2014 09:15

There is an interesting article concerning German river monitors in the HMA, unfortunately in German, but perhaps of some use for you:
http://historisches-marinearchiv.de/son ... nitore.php

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