UJ 2101/2105

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cordenons78
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UJ 2101/2105

Post by cordenons78 » 28 Aug 2014 15:57

Hello,
I have a couple of documents relating to an Lt.z.S. of Kriegsmarine of 21. U-Bootjagdflotille,
This man has died of an unspecified ship sank off Kreta the June 1, 1944 during an air raid.
I have read that day were sunk only three ships of a convoy: UJ 2101 - UJ 2105 and Dampfer Sabine .
So I assume that this man was one of the two UJ.
This information they are exact or other ship were sunk in the raid?

On-site http://www.ubootwaffe.net/
there is not the name of this man of Kriegsmarine.
Ideas to understand on that ship it was this man?
Someone has photos of these ships?

Thanks for the reply.

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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by kgvm » 29 Aug 2014 08:11

Might be the name would be helpful?

cordenons78
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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by cordenons78 » 29 Aug 2014 09:31

The name is:
Lt.z.S. (Ing.) Anton Mühl, * 22.6.1920 Regensburg

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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by Darius333 » 29 Aug 2014 19:51

Hello,

also in the HMA is his name missing:
http://historisches-marinearchiv.de/pro ... ingabe.php

In the FMA board is a little bit about the sinking of UJ 2101 & UJ 2105:
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... l#msg97304
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... #msg214854
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... l#msg68990

UJ 2105 sank w/o personal losses.
UJ 2101 had 5 dead, 1 missing, 19 wounded.

TA 16 was also damaged (2 dead, 1 missing, 8 wounded).

Greetings

Darius


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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by cordenons78 » 29 Aug 2014 21:44

Darius333 wrote:Hello,

also in the HMA is his name missing:
http://historisches-marinearchiv.de/pro ... ingabe.php

In the FMA board is a little bit about the sinking of UJ 2101 & UJ 2105:
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... l#msg97304
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... #msg214854
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... l#msg68990

UJ 2105 sank w/o personal losses.
UJ 2101 had 5 dead, 1 missing, 19 wounded.

TA 16 was also damaged (2 dead, 1 missing, 8 wounded).

Greetings

Darius


Darius

Darius thanks for the reply, but I need a clarification: I looked at the link
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... l#msg97304

I read: Uj2105, am 01.06.1944, 18:30, auf pos. 35 ° 30N, 25 ° 04E (Heraklion) zusammen mit durch UJ2101 Fliegerraketen Versenkt (2 Tote)

If I was not wrong to understand the meaning is that : 1.6.44 the UJ 2105 is sunk with UJ 2101, there are 2 dead

But you wrote:
UJ 2105 sank w / or personal losses.
UJ 2101 Had 5 dead, 1 missing, 19 wounded.
TA 16 Also damaged was (2 dead, 1 missing, wounded 8)

Problem: UJ 2015- If w/o is for with 0(zero) losses the numbers of deaths is different?

In a letter sent to his wife Oberleutnant the z.S.u Kommandant Brinckmann wrote:
"Er fand sein Seemansgrab zusammen mit unserem stolzen Boot nördlich Kreta in der blauen Aegais".

If I was not wrong this is the meaning of the translation:
“has found its grave in the sea with the boat in the Aegean sea to the north of Kreta”.

So, if the only military ships sunk they are the UJ 2101 and UJ 2105 and there were no losses on UJ 2105, at this point Anton died certainly on UJ 2101.

Greetings
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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by kgvm » 29 Aug 2014 22:15

That is very probably correct, for Oberleutnant zur See Wolfgang Brinckmann became commander of "UJ 2101" in March 1944 (Byron Tesapsides, Die Kriegsmarine in der Ägäis im II. WK 1941 - 1944).

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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by cordenons78 » 30 Aug 2014 12:51

kgvm wrote:That is very probably correct, for Oberleutnant zur See Wolfgang Brinckmann became commander of "UJ 2101" in March 1944 (Byron Tesapsides, Die Kriegsmarine in der Ägäis im II. WK 1941 - 1944).
Thanks
I think that is correct. In his letter of 05/06/44, sent to the wife of Anton, the Oblt Brinckmann writes:
"Als Kommandant des U-Jägers X habe ich die traurige Pflicht, Ihnen mitzuteilen, dass Ihr lieber Mann Anton am 1. Juni 1944 nördlich Kreta ......."

You have the book that you have mentioned?
In the book:
There are photos of UJ 2101?
There are information for the UJ 2101 from 25.4.44 to 1.6.44 and the sinking of two UJ that you can summarize here?
Anton was with 21.U Flottille from 25.4.44 to 1.6.44, first was with the 3. MS-Flotille from 29/03/42 to 05/07/42 and before on board the Kreuzer Lützow from 16.4.41 to 1.2.42.
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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by cordenons78 » 30 Aug 2014 13:51

...in the book "Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe 1815-1945" (Band 8.1) E. Groner / D. Jung / M. Maass
the number of deaths of the two ships is quantified in:
2 for the UJ 2105
12 for the UJ 2101

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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by byron 1 » 21 Aug 2015 16:06

Hi,

Ltn. (Ing.) Anton Mühl (+) 01.06.44 was an engineer on U-Jäger (UJ 2101)

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Re: UJ 2101/2105

Post by cordenons78 » 01 Mar 2016 18:45

Hi Byron
Sorry ...I read late Your reply...
Many thanks


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