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Complete Commander Listings?

Post by ijnfleetadmiral » 03 May 2022 09:04

Is there a website that has complete Commanding Officer listings for the major Kriegsmarine surface ships? Wikipedia is fragmentary (even the German version) and german-navy.de only lists their last names. Here's what I have for the Type 1923 Torpedoboots...can anyone fill in blanks or give exact dates for command? TIA for any help with these.

MÖWE
Commanding Officers
KL Johann Ernst Fischer – 1 October 1926 – 15 May 1928
??? – 15 May 1928 – 1 October 1928
OLzS Fritz Berger – 1 October 1928 – 22 August 1929
??? – 22 August 1929 – 31 August 1930
KL Hans-Joachim Gadow – 31 August 1930 – 27 September 1930
OLzS / KL Werner Schöne – 27 September 1930 – September 1932
OLzS / KL Hermann Jordan – September 1932 – 29 September 1934
KL Hans-Jürgen Reinicke – 29 September 1934 – September 1936
KL Werner Pfeiffer – September 1936 – 29 March 1938
??? – 29 March 1938 – 1 November 1938
KL Konrad Edler von Rennenkampff – 1 November 1938 – March 1940
KL Helmut Neuss – March 1940 – 28 May 1940
??? – May 1940 – April 1942
KL Paul Koch – April 1942 – June 1942
KL Konrad Loerke – June 1942 – August 1942
LzS Werner-Friedrich Weinlig – August 1942 – August 1942
LzS Fritz Löhr – August 1942 – December 1942
KL Walter Lüdde-Neurath – December 1942 – January 1943
LzS Fritz Löhr – January 1943 – February 1943
KL Helmut Bastian – February 1943 – September 1943
KL Walter Lüdde-Neurath – September 1943 – September 1943
??? – September 1943 – October 1943
KL Helmut Bastian – October 1943 – 15 June 1944

GREIF
Commanding Officers
OLzS / KL Wilhelm Meendsen-Bohlken – 15 March 1927 – 1 October 1928
??? – 1 October 1928 – 16 February 1929
OLzS / KL Werner Ehrhardt – 16 February 1929 – 26 September 1930
KL Winfried Hagen – 16 September 1930 – 21 September 1931
??? – 21 September 1931 – 7 December 1932
OLzS / KL Alfred Schemmel – 7 December 1932 – February 1934
OLzS / KL Alwin Albrecht – February 1934 – September 1934
KL Manfred Fuhrke – September 1934 – October 1936
KL Wolf Henne – October 1936 – 29 March 1938
??? – 29 March 1938 – 1 November 1938
KL Wilhelm Verlohr – 1 November 1938 – November 1939
KL Wilhelm-Nikolaus Freiherr von Lyncker – November 1939 – October 1940
KL Heinrich Hoffmann – October 1940 – December 1941
??? – December 1941 – January 1942
OLzS Ulrich Kolbe – January 1942 – August 1942
OLzS Werner Lange – August 1942 – October 1942
KL Rudolf Fuchs – October 1942 – March 1944
OLzS / KL Horst Freiherr von Luttwitz – March 1944 – 23 May 1944

FALKE
Commanding Officers
OLzS Hans Hartmann – 1 August 1927 – 27 September 1928
OLzS Werner Ehrhardt – 27 September 1928 – 15 February 1929
KL Hans-Armin Czech – 15 February 1929 – 1 June 1929
??? – 1 June 1929 – 11 October 1929
KL Fritz Berger – 11 October 1929 – September 1930
KL Paul Ascher – September 1930 – September 1932
OLzS / KL Ernst-Ludwig Theinemann – September 1932 – September 1934
KL Alwin Albrecht – September 1934 – September 1936
KL Walter Riede – September 1936 – 11 June 1938
??? – 11 June 1938 – 4 April 1939
KL Günter Hessler – 4 April 1939 – March 1940
KL Jan Heinrich Hansen-Nootbaar – March 1940 – December 1941
KL Heinrich Hoffmann – December 1941 – 17 October 1942
KL Konrad Loerke – 17 October 1942 – March 1943
KL Hans-Walter Buch – March 1943 – September 1943
KL Günter Krüger – September 1943 – 15 June 1944 (KIA)

SEEADLER
Commanding Officers
KL Adolf Pirmann – 1 May 1928 – 30 June 1928
KL Heinz Kiderlen – 30 June 1928 – 27 September 1928
KL Wilhelm Meendsen-Bohlken – 27 September 1928 – 15 November 1928
??? – 15 November 1928 – 10 April 1929
KL Gerhard Wagner – 10 April 1929 – 15 August 1929
??? – 15 August 1929 – 22 August 1929
OLzS Fritz Berger – 22 August 1929 – 19 October 1929
??? – 19 October 1929 – 15 October 1930
KL Karl-Jesko von Puttkamer – 15 October 1930 – 2 January 1931
??? – 2 January 1931 – October 1931
KL Günther Gumprich – October 1931 – September 1932
KL Alfred Schulze-Hinrichs – September 1932 – 20 July 1933
??? – 20 July 1933 – October 1934
KL Friedrich Kothe – October 1934 – September 1935
KL Georg Langheld – September 1935 – September 1936
KL Otto Teichmann – September 1936 – May 1937
KL Georg Langheld – May 1937 – October 1937
KL Günter Wachsmuth – October 1937 – 10 December 1937
??? – 10 December 1937 – 11 June 1938
KL Walter Riede – 11 June 1938 – October 1938
??? – October 1938 – November 1938
KL Werner Hartenstein – November 1938 – October 1939
KL Franz Kohlauf – October 1939 – January 1942
OLzS Hermann Holzapfel – January 1942 – February 1942
KL Hans Strecker – February 1942 – 13 May 1942

ALBATROS
Commanding Officers
KL Ernst Fischer – 15 May 1928 – 29 September 1928
OLzS Karl-Jesko von Puttkamer – 29 September 1928 – 24 September 1930
??? – 24 September 1930 – October 1930
OLzS / KL Alfred Schulze-Hinrichs – October 1930 – September 1932
OLzS Alfred Schimmel – September 1932 – 7 December 1932
??? – 7 December 1932 – 5 October 1933
KL Werner Hartmann – 5 October 1933 – October 1935
KL Hubert Freiherr von Wangenheim – October 1935 – September 1936
KL Georg Langheld – September 1936 – April 1937
KL Hans Erdmenger – April 1937 – October 1937
??? – October 1937 – November 1937
KL Heinrich Wittig – November 1937 – 16 February 1938
??? – 16 February 1938 – 1 July 1938
KL Herbert Max Schultz – 1 July 1938 – 1 November 1939
??? – November 1939 – December 1939
KL Siegfried Strehlow – December 1939 – 10 April 1940

KONDOR
Commanding Officers
OLzS Werner Schöne – 15 July 1928 – October 1928
OLzS / KL Winfried Hagen – October 1928 – 15 October 1930
??? – 15 October 1930 – 21 September 1931
KL Winfried Hagen – 21 September 1931 – September 1932
OLzS / KL Heinz Bonatz – September 1932 – February 1934
KL Alfred Schemmel – February 1934 – 24 September 1934
KL Conrad Engelhardt – 24 September 1934 – 27 September 1936
KL Edward Wegener – 27 September 1936 – March 1938
KL Werner Pfeiffer – March 1938 – 1 July 1938
??? – 1 July 1938 – 4 April 1939
KL Hans Wicke – 4 April 1939 – October 1940
KL Karl Kaßbaum – October 1940 – November 1940
KL Wilhelm-Nikolaus Freiherr von Lyncker – November 1940 – June 1941
KL Franz Burkart – June 1941 – June 1942
OLzS Heinz-Jürgen Sonnenberg – June 1942 – September 1942
KL Heinrich Peter-Pirkham – September 1942 – December 1943
OLzS Peter Hermann – December 1943 – April 1944
OLzS Horst Freiherr von Luttwitz – April 1944 – April 1944
OLzS August Wilhelm Rönnau – April 1944 – 28 June 1944
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Re: Complete Commander Listings?

Post by jbroshot » 04 May 2022 01:21

ijnfleetadmiral wrote:
03 May 2022 09:04
Is there a website that has complete Commanding Officer listings for the major Kriegsmarine surface ships? Wikipedia is fragmentary (even the German version) and german-navy.de only lists their last names. Here's what I have for the Type 1923 Torpedoboots...can anyone fill in blanks or give exact dates for command? TIA for any help with these.
For battleships, including Schliesen and and Schleswig-Holstein, and battlecruisers, see Appendix 2 "Construction, Commanders and Fate" in German Capital Ships of World War Two, by M. J. Whitley (1989)

Likewise for light and heavy cruisers, see Appendix 2 to German Cruisers of World War Two, by M. J. Whitley (1985)

And for destroyers and torpedo boats, see Appendix 3 (destroyers) and Appendix 4 (torpedo boats) to German Destroyers of World War Two, by M. J. Whitley (second edition - 1991)

Except for cruisers, Whitley tends to start his commander lists with the year that Hitler came to power.

The list for each ship can be pretty long.

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Re: Complete Commander Listings?

Post by jbroshot » 04 May 2022 01:50

Whitley appears to sometimes disagree with your list and also not to provide first names or initials, he also notes periods of repair and refit during which there may not have been a commander assigned to the ship.

Examples
MÖWE
Commanding Officers

KL Johann Ernst Fischer – 1 October 1926 – 15 May 1928
??? – 15 May 1928 – 1 October 1928
OLzS Fritz Berger – 1 October 1928 – 22 August 1929
??? – 22 August 1929 – 31 August 1930
KL Hans-Joachim Gadow – 31 August 1930 – 27 September 1930
OLzS / KL Werner Schöne – 27 September 1930 – September 1932
OLzS / KL Hermann Jordan – September 1932 – 29 September 1934
KL Hans-Jürgen Reinicke – 29 September 1934 – September 1936
KL Werner Pfeiffer – September 1936 – 29 March 1938
??? – 29 March 1938 – 1 November 1938
KL Konrad Edler von Rennenkampff – 1 November 1938 – March 1940
KL Helmut Neuss – March 1940 – 28 May 1940
??? – May 1940 – April 1942
Whitley:
March 1940 to April 1941 Repairing torpedo damage, Wihelmshaven
April 1941 to March 1943 Non-operational or in dockyard hands, Baltic area
KL Paul Koch – April 1942 – June 1942
KL Konrad Loerke – June 1942 – August 1942 [Whitley: to September 1942]
LzS Werner-Friedrich Weinlig – August 1942 – August 1942 [not listed in Whitley]
LzS Fritz Löhr – August 1942 – December 1942 [not listed in Whitley]
KL Walter Lüdde-Neurath – December 1942 – January 1943
LzS Fritz Löhr – January 1943 – February 1943 [not listed in Whitley]
KL Helmut Bastian – February 1943 – September 1943 [Whitley: Jan 1943 - Jun 1944]
KL Walter Lüdde-Neurath – September 1943 – September 1943 [not listed in Whitley
??? – September 1943 – October 1943
KL Helmut Bastian – October 1943 – 15 June 1944
GREIF
Commanding Officers
OLzS / KL Wilhelm Meendsen-Bohlken – 15 March 1927 – 1 October 1928
??? – 1 October 1928 – 16 February 1929
OLzS / KL Werner Ehrhardt – 16 February 1929 – 26 September 1930
KL Winfried Hagen – 16 September 1930 – 21 September 1931
??? – 21 September 1931 – 7 December 1932
OLzS / KL Alfred Schemmel – 7 December 1932 – February 1934
OLzS / KL Alwin Albrecht – February 1934 – September 1934
KL Manfred Fuhrke – September 1934 – October 1936
KL Wolf Henne – October 1936 – 29 March 1938
??? – 29 March 1938 – 1 November 1938
KL Wilhelm Verlohr – 1 November 1938 – November 1939
KL Wilhelm-Nikolaus Freiherr von Lyncker – November 1939 – October 1940
KL Heinrich Hoffmann – October 1940 – December 1941
??? – December 1941 – January 1942
Whitley: Ob.Lt.z.S Schramm 12.41 - 1.42

OLzS Ulrich Kolbe – January 1942 – August 1942
OLzS Werner Lange – August 1942 – October 1942
Whitley: Lange not listed
December 1941 to December 1942 Dockyard hands
January 1943 to February 1943 Working-up
Kpt.Lt. R. Fuchs 10.42 - 7.43
Kpt.Lt. Ludde-Neurath 9.43 - 10.43
Kpt.Lt. R. Fuchs 10.43 - 3.44
OLzS / KL Horst Freiherr von Luttwitz – March 1944 – 23 May 1944

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Re: Complete Commander Listings?

Post by ijnfleetadmiral » 04 May 2022 03:35

Thanks for the corrections!
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Re: Complete Commander Listings?

Post by jbroshot » 05 May 2022 05:17

ijnfleetadmiral wrote:
03 May 2022 09:04
Is there a website that has complete Commanding Officer listings for the major Kriegsmarine surface ships? Wikipedia is fragmentary (even the German version) and german-navy.de only lists their last names.
Admiral

Are you looking for just corrections for the Type 23 Torpedo Boat commanders? Or for the commanders for all the major Kriegsmarine surface ships?

Here is the list for Emden, from Whitley's Cruisers

Emden
Kpt.z.S. Kurt Forester 15.10.25 to 9.28
K.Kpt./F.Kpt./Kpt.z.S von Arnauld de la Pierre 9.28 to 10.30
F.Kpt./Kpt.z.S. Witthoeft-Emden 10.30 to 3.32
F.Kpt. Werner Grassmann 3.32 to 4.33
F.Kpt. Karl Dönitz 9.34 to 9.35
Kpt.z.S. Johannes Bachmann 9.35 to 8.36
Kpt.z.S. Walter Lohman 8.36 to 6.37
F.Kpt./Kpt.z.S. Leopold Bürkner 7.37 to 6.38
Kpt.z.S. Paul Wever 6.38 to 5.39
Kpt.z.S. Werner Lange 5.39 to 26.8.40
Kpt.z.S. Hans Mirow 27.8.40 to 7.42
Kpt.z.S. Friedrich Schmidt 7.42 to 9.43
Kpt.z.S. Hans Hengist 9.43 to 2.44
F.Kpt./Kpt. z.S. Hans-Eberhard Meisner 3.44 to 1.45
Kpt.z.S. Wolfgang Kahler 1.45 to 4.45
F.Kpt. Wickmann (temp) 3.45 to 4.45

You might send me a private message to see if I can send you information from the lists in Whitley's books.

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Re: Complete Commander Listings?

Post by Darius333 » 06 May 2022 03:03


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