Unusual Ships
Unusual Ships
Please post information and pictures of strange Kriegsmarine ships! Anything from field-modifications to prototypes or planned projects.
Re: Unusual Ships
The Manta was the weirdest thing, wasn't it?
Re: Unusual Ships
VS-8 SCHELL
posted by myself at: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=225
Nachtjagdleitschiff Togo (night fighter guide ship)
The ship was part of the Tallinn defences:
http://www.hut.fi/~andres/m44/m44togox.htm
http://www.hut.fi/~andres/m44/m44togo.htm
http://www.hut.fi/~andres/m44/m44togo2.htm
the ship had an array or radars and communication devices, included, but not limited to:
Würzburg-Riese and Heinrich IV (Y-Anlage), Y-Verfahren (aka. Y-Anlage, Heinrich IV), Freya with AN-device for fighter guiadance and maybe one FuMG A1 Freya and one FuMG 39T Würzburg
oddly, the ship'send was in the coast of my own country!!
there are some other interesting bits of trivia regarding Togo:
Xavier
Instandsetzungtruppfuhrer
Nachtjagdleitschiff Togo (night fighter guide ship)
The ship was part of the Tallinn defences:
http://www.hut.fi/~andres/m44/m44togox.htm
http://www.hut.fi/~andres/m44/m44togo.htm
http://www.hut.fi/~andres/m44/m44togo2.htm
the ship had an array or radars and communication devices, included, but not limited to:
Würzburg-Riese and Heinrich IV (Y-Anlage), Y-Verfahren (aka. Y-Anlage, Heinrich IV), Freya with AN-device for fighter guiadance and maybe one FuMG A1 Freya and one FuMG 39T Würzburg
oddly, the ship'send was in the coast of my own country!!
(altough no more details are provided.....)The ship's life came to its end on November 21, 1984, when she (as M/S Topeka) grounded on the Mexican coast.
there are some other interesting bits of trivia regarding Togo:
very best regardsTogo was a very unique case in German armed forces as it operated a mixed crew of both Kriegsmarine (Navy) and Luftwaffe (Air Force), as the radars were operated to Luftwaffe. In fact, there were as if two separate crews, the naval crew taking care of the ship and the guns, and the air force crew taking care of the radars and night fighter guidance.
Xavier
Instandsetzungtruppfuhrer
Last edited by Xavier on 16 Feb 2005, 18:32, edited 1 time in total.
Thanks for starting the discussion guys! I would like to know some about the FlaK ships that were used by the KM.. I cannot recall what they were called but I believe I've seen some pictures of them.
First, Karl234
Was that a Schnell Boot project? It seems like it was built however, but was it ever used? And I see that it could carry a tank?
Xavier
I've seen some of that "mystery" ship before.. What the heck was it doing outside Mexico???
First, Karl234
Was that a Schnell Boot project? It seems like it was built however, but was it ever used? And I see that it could carry a tank?
Xavier
I've seen some of that "mystery" ship before.. What the heck was it doing outside Mexico???
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Hallo Kakita. do you , by chance, know exactly were it was stranded? was it loaded? what cargo was carrying then?
were salvage (scrap) operations performed?
maybe there are still some remains of the ship to be seen, or a trace of the major equipemnt could be done (engines, etc)..
please comment
Best regards
Xavier
Instandsetzungtruppfuhrer
were salvage (scrap) operations performed?
maybe there are still some remains of the ship to be seen, or a trace of the major equipemnt could be done (engines, etc)..
please comment
Best regards
Xavier
Instandsetzungtruppfuhrer
The speedboat prototype was built for invasion to britain, "Operation Seelöwe".PPoS wrote:Thanks for starting the discussion guys! I would like to know some about the FlaK ships that were used by the KM.. I cannot recall what they were called but I believe I've seen some pictures of them.
First, Karl234
Was that a Schnell Boot project? It seems like it was built however, but was it ever used? And I see that it could carry a tank?
Here is "Flak-Kreuzer Niobe"
"German Flak Ship Niobe. Bombed at Kotka by Russian aircraft but did shot
down 99 Russian Aircraft in the Attack. Lost 60 out of her crew of 300."
on this page you can see some other "Flak-Kreuzer". May be you find some real pictures.
http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ ... index.html
Here's a flak ship:
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/imag ... h71445.jpg
There were approximately VS-boats (Versuchs-Schnellboote) and six (nine?) T-boats (Pionier Tragflächen-Schnellboote), most of which looked like fairly straightforward hydrofoils. The oddest was VS 5, which looked vaguely like a giant torpedo with a remora clamped onto its upper surface.
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/imag ... h71445.jpg
There were approximately VS-boats (Versuchs-Schnellboote) and six (nine?) T-boats (Pionier Tragflächen-Schnellboote), most of which looked like fairly straightforward hydrofoils. The oddest was VS 5, which looked vaguely like a giant torpedo with a remora clamped onto its upper surface.
Hi
In my opinion very strange was project of german battleship type H-44 with standard displacement 122 000t and full in about 141 500 t were the largest ever projected warships (main guns 8*508mm and 30 knots and of course more armoured) what interesting medium artillery were the same as in main project (12*150mm and 16*105mm)
I don't know if you were talking about that kind of "unusual" but for me it was.. strange
regards
In my opinion very strange was project of german battleship type H-44 with standard displacement 122 000t and full in about 141 500 t were the largest ever projected warships (main guns 8*508mm and 30 knots and of course more armoured) what interesting medium artillery were the same as in main project (12*150mm and 16*105mm)
I don't know if you were talking about that kind of "unusual" but for me it was.. strange
regards
You have Technical Datas from this and drawings?patrynius wrote:Hi
In my opinion very strange was project of german battleship type H-44 with standard displacement 122 000t and full in about 141 500 t were the largest ever projected warships (main guns 8*508mm and 30 knots and of course more armoured) what interesting medium artillery were the same as in main project (12*150mm and 16*105mm)
I don't know if you were talking about that kind of "unusual" but for me it was.. strange
regards
Hi
Sorry, the problem is my English, sometimes I don't feel diffrence while using words like projected or paper study - of courseit was just theorically.. yes good word - exercise.
But still very unusual
and torpedo battery - as I remember they projected it on every H-classes (from H-39 to H-44)...on Bismarck class.. on Scharnorst also.
p.s. means there were documentation.. but don't have any.. searching, searching .
best regards
Sorry, the problem is my English, sometimes I don't feel diffrence while using words like projected or paper study - of courseit was just theorically.. yes good word - exercise.
But still very unusual
and torpedo battery - as I remember they projected it on every H-classes (from H-39 to H-44)...on Bismarck class.. on Scharnorst also.
p.s. means there were documentation.. but don't have any.. searching, searching .
best regards