The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear » 22 Jun 2014 20:48

hi, John,

more than two weeks later, would you care to solve the riddle and, possibly, ask another question ?

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby John Hilly » 23 Jun 2014 16:05

Sorry, I've been away. Maybe one more hint:
Fregattenkapitän was named Cellarius.
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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby John Hilly » 29 Jun 2014 13:43

Ok, here's the answer:
Those U-boat missions were part of Sonderkommando Nord, whose purpose was to arrange and train underground organisation to act if the SU would invade Finland after the armistice on 4.9.1944.
Most famous participient was Capt. Lauti Törni, a Finnish war hero and holder of the Mannerheim's Cross, the highest Finnish medal.

He later moved illegaly to USA, where he became Special Forces Captain Larry A. Thorne. He was John Wayne's role model in the movie "Ballad of the Green Berets".

Törni was killed in Vietnam when his helicopter crahed to a montain.

Source e.g. http://sydaby.eget.net/fi/krstv/sondern.htm

The quiz is now free for anyonen interested!

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear » 22 Aug 2014 14:00

hi,

as there seem to be no other volunteers ..

A German submarine was lost shortly (on the same day) after it achieved it's first and only success after a long cruise.

The commanding officer had been a submarine captain before the war but was supposed to a very experienced submariner, anyway.

Why, and which boat/man do I have in mind ?

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby mescal » 25 Aug 2014 19:42

It seems to be the type IX-D2 U-179, sunk on 8 October 1942 off South Africa.
The skipper was Ernst Sobe, who had skippered U-34 before the war.

Can't remember the 'why' she was sunk, though.
Only that the tool of its demise was HMS Active.
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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear » 25 Aug 2014 21:01

hi, Olivier,

U 179 (Sobe) is correct, of course

The "why" question refers not to U 179, but to Sobe's presumed experience although he skippered U 34 only pre-war and the answer is that he was the director of the submarine war training group (AGRU Front) from January, 1940, to September, 1941.

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear » 02 Sep 2014 15:22

hi, Olivier,

your answer was correct ... your turn, Sir !

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby mescal » 02 Sep 2014 16:31

Hello,

Sorry I forgot to post a new question earlier.

Anyway, we're looking for a ship which had not always been German.

She was at the start of the war in reserve of the Navy it belonged to, far away from Europe, before being reactivated.
She was attacked and sunk by the luftwaffe during an important operation, then after salvage entered service in the Kriegsmarine.
She was definitely sunk in the same general area as her first sinking, by destroyers of the navy she initially belonged to.

The name of her class is the same as one quite numerous class of ww2 warships, but actually it refers to a previous class (one war earlier) which had the same name.
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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby mescal » 05 Sep 2014 20:27

Hint :
she was first sunk in 1941, and then sunk again in 1943
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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby mescal » 10 Sep 2014 19:08

Hint 2 :

a sistership, shortly after WW1 :
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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby bertamingo » 17 Sep 2014 03:35

RN Widnes minesweeper, sunk in battle of Greece, refloated by Germans and entered Kriegsmarine as UJ2109, sunk by RN destroyers during battle of Kos. :)

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby mescal » 17 Sep 2014 06:59

Exactly !

Your turn, bertamingo.
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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby bertamingo » 17 Sep 2014 17:06

OK, this one:
How many cruisers and ex-cruisers served during ww2 in German Kriegsmarine?

The count includes only cruisers and ships converted from cruisers in service of Kriegsmarine, including aux. roles like barrack ships etc.

It doesn't count on auxiliary cruisers, cruisers that never entered service, cruiser-equivalent ships that never got cruiser classification, and cruisers only used as objects, e.g. block ships.

Good luck :thumbsup:

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear » 17 Sep 2014 18:12

hi,

let's add

2 Pocket battleships (Admiral Scheer, Lützow), re-classified as cruiser in 1940
3 heavy cruisers Admiral Hipper-class
6 light cruisers (Emden, Karlsruhe, Köln, Königsberg, Leipzig, Nürnberg)
1 ex German, ex-Yugoslawian Gazelle-class cruiser (Niobe)
2 Hamburg-class ex-cruisers as support/barracks ships (Hamburg, Berlin)
2 Gazelle-class ex-cruisers as floating AAW batteries (Arcona, Medusa)
1 Gazelle-class ex-cruiser as barracks ship (Amazone)
1 Dutch ex-cruiser as AAW cruiser Niobe ex Gelderland)
Total: 18
remark: 4 other ex-Norwegian or ex-Dutch floating AAW batteries (Nymphe, Thetis, Undine, Amazone) were never classified as cruisers.

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby bertamingo » 18 Sep 2014 00:40

Polar bear wrote:hi,

let's add

2 Pocket battleships (Admiral Scheer, Lützow), re-classified as cruiser in 1940
3 heavy cruisers Admiral Hipper-class
6 light cruisers (Emden, Karlsruhe, Köln, Königsberg, Leipzig, Nürnberg)
1 ex German, ex-Yugoslawian Gazelle-class cruiser (Niobe)
2 Hamburg-class ex-cruisers as support/barracks ships (Hamburg, Berlin)
2 Gazelle-class ex-cruisers as floating AAW batteries (Arcona, Medusa)
1 Gazelle-class ex-cruiser as barracks ship (Amazone)
1 Dutch ex-cruiser as AAW cruiser Niobe ex Gelderland)
Total: 18
remark: 4 other ex-Norwegian or ex-Dutch floating AAW batteries (Nymphe, Thetis, Undine, Amazone) were never classified as cruisers.
greetings, the pb


Great list! Already almost covers everything, though there is one missing 8-)


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