did germans capture any russian warships?

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did germans capture any russian warships?

Post by wesker101 » 06 Apr 2006 08:49

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Post by Mischa » 08 Apr 2006 19:07

Hello,
I know about one G-5 class motor torpedo boat No 47 in the Baltic Sea on 26./27.06.1941 near Libau and in the Black Sea another boat of the same class --> No 111 (05./06.01.1942) near Eupatoria.
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Post by T. A. Gardner » 09 Apr 2006 20:11

The auxiliary minesweepers T 53 Ghadzjobei, a former steam trawler of 838 tons, and the T-57 ex-Baikal a former tug boat both lost off the Kerch Straights and refloated by the Germans. The T-57 was later sunk by the Russians on 27/10/43.

Two Type 1124 BKA type river monitors were captured when Narva fell on 20/8/41 and were subsequently used in that area on riverine duties.

The MTB TKA 52 was captured off Björkö Island by Finland and used as the Vasama until returned to the USSR after their armistice.

The icebreaker Lacplesis sunk off Arensburg on 22/7/41 was refloated and used by the Germans. Interned in Sweden 1945.

An interesting one is the Stefan Makarov, a Black Seas Fleet auxiliary icebreaker that attempted to desert to the Germans 1/42. It was bombed and sunk by Soviet aircraft off Cape Tarkhankut during its attempted desertion.

The sail training vessel Tovarishch was abandoned at Mariupol by the Soviets and captured by the Germans but not put into service.

The naval transport Volgolyes was seized in Germany on 22/7/41 and renamed the Kolmar. It was later lost off Norway on 19/8/44.

The tanker Zheleznodorozhnik was captured at Liepaja 7/41 and became the heilgenbeil in German service. Later sunk.

The tanker Yalta was salvaged at Feodosia by the Germans mid 1942.

The Grozny a converted tanker was captured by the Germans at Mariupol 10/8/41 and subsequently scuttled there 20/9/43.

The salvage tug Paldisky was captured by Finland off Tallinn 8/41 and became the Helo LA-1 in Finnish service.

The motor sloop Suvoroy was captured by the Germans at Mariupol and used until lost on 30/1/43.

Four tugboats were captured at Rostov in 1942 by the Germans. One of these was the Talla which was renamed W.M. Mares 13. It was later sunk in 1944. The others were renamed W.M.Mares 14 - 16.

The tug Viet was captured at Rostov 1942 by the Germans and subsequently used.

Tug 310 captured at Rostov became the W.M.Mares 18 in German service.

The tug Andre Marti was captured at Yeisk 8/42 and used by the Germans.

The steamer Bru was captured 7/41 and served under Latvian command. Later returned to the USSR via Denmark 1945.

Well, there's more another installment later....

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Post by dragos03 » 11 Apr 2006 13:52

Romania also captured and used some Russian warships.

Two Danube MTBs were captured in the Danube Delta, these were abandoned by the Soviets after being damaged by the Romanian troops. They were repaired and used by the Romanian Danube fleet.

During the advance down the East coast of the Azov Sea, Romanian cavalrymen captured 3 Soviet gunboats and used them briefly against their former owners.

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A second installment

Post by T. A. Gardner » 12 Apr 2006 03:30

The following merchant ships were captured and used. Unless otherwise noted, these were captured between June and August 1941 (it's just alot less typing for me that way).

Baltic Sea area:

Aarne Fate unknown

Altai Fate unknown

Amga One of 14 suction dregers built by Germany prior to the war. Bombed, sunk 27/6/41 Sölosund. Raised, repaired 7/41. Renamed Carl. Sunk 11/3/45.

Arija Renamed Wartheland. Sunk Eidfjord Norway 12/12/44.

Auseklis Renamed Ortelsburg sunk Oslo Norway 28/4/43.

Ausma Renamed Käthe O mined sunk Rugen 13/7/42.

Bru Returned to USSR via Denmark 1945.

Chara One of two out of 14 suction dredgers building for the USSR by Germany at Hamburg. Seized 22/6/41 partially completed. Fate unknown.

Daugava Recaptured by USSR 1/11/44,

Dniester Renamed Pernau. Returned USSR 1945.

Ellven Fate unknown.

Elton Renamed Insterburg. Mined, sunk Keil 5/45.

Estonia Captured by 1st S-Boat Flotilla 1941. Converted to floating barracks. Returned USSR 1945.

Everhope Renamed Anke. Sunk by MTB Malavger Fjord 11/9/43.

Everiga Sunk as blockship by USSR. Raised and repaired in Denmark. Renamed Pärnu. Returned USSR 1945.

Everonika Renamed Irma. Sunk in collision 14/3/44.

Evertons Renamed Rotersand. Sunk by bombing Bremerhaven 1944. Repaired and to US 1949. Sold to Honduras. Scrapped 1954.

Fleet Renamed Frauenburg. Sunk 11/42.

Gauja Renamed Friedrich. To UK 1945 as Empire Conygam. Sunk 1948 in ammunition explosion transporting old WW 2 ordinance for disposal.

Gundega Renamed Weichselland. Mined, sunk Stavanger Norway 21/2/44.

Hiju Fate unknown

Hitdur Fate unknown.

Julia Fate unknown.

Kadri Fate unknown.

Kaganovich Seized 22/6/41 and renamed Libau. Torpedoed and sunk 15/10/42.

Kaija Mined, sunk Memel 2/10/41.

Kalevipoeg Captured Loksa 8/41. Renamed Koralle. Grounded Baltic, constructive loss 4/45.

Andreijs Kalnins Renamed Stadt Riga. Torpedoed sunk Borkum 6/7/44.

Kandava Renamed Düna. Mined, sunk Norway 22/4/43.

Kangars Renamed Michael. Torpedoed, sunk Tanafjord, Norway 1/4/42.

Kaupo Renamed Westpreußen. To UK 1947. Scrapped 1952.

Khassan Sold by Germany to USSR 1940. Seized 22/6/41. Renamed Palatia. Mined, sunk Lindenes 21/10/42.

Koidula Fate unknown.

Krius Renamed Antoinette. Stranded, lost Scharnhörn 11/2/44.

Kuldiga Renamed Preußich. To Holland then UK 1945 as Beltyne. To Greece 11/56. Scrapped 1960.

Magnitogorsk Renamed Trostburg. Bombed Hamburg 1945. Repaired, returned USSR 1945.

There are more (about 2 more pages) for another time. Enough for now.

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Post by T. A. Gardner » 17 Apr 2006 03:17

Another installment:

Baltic captures continued:

Nercha Seized at Hamburg. Fate unknown. See Chara entry. Also one of a class of suction dregers. Incomplete when seized.

Ogre Renamed Balga. To UK 1945. Scrapped 1953.

Rauna Renamed Braunsburg. Interned Denmark 5/45. Returned to USSR, lost in transit.

Riga Renamed Schilksee. Wrecked Norway 31/12/44.

Salme Fate unknown.

Saturn Converted to auxiliary minesweeper NN 12 1943.

Sigrid Fate unknown

Spidola Renamed Rudau. To UK 1947. Then to Costa Rica. Scrapped 1958.

Sports Renamed Magdalena. To UK 1946. Then to Panama. Scrapped 1954.

Take Fate unknown.

Tallinin Renamed Ditmar Köl. Sunk Karsfjord Norway 7/12/44.

Uranus Converted to auxiliary netlayer Netzleger III sunk________

Velta Renamed Walter. Stranded Stavanger Norway 19/10/44.

Venta Renamed Undine. To UK 2/4/47. Scrapped 1954.

Vasa Fate unknown.

Vilins Fate unknown.

Vur Fate unknown.

Black Sea merchant captures:

Kharkov Renamed Boy Feddersen. Torpedoed, sunk 11/8/43.

Krestyanka Captured Mariupol 8/41 fate unknown.

Respublika Captured Mariupol 8/41 fate unknown.

Potyomkin Converted to Sperrbrecher 194. Shelled, damaged and, recaptured by USSR at Bralia 24/8/44.

Trud Scuttled 30/9/43

Volgo-Don Torpedoed, sunk Cape Tarkhankut 25/11/43.

Ulyanov Fate unknown.

Uritsky Fate unknown.

Chicherin Mined, sunk 6/11/41.

Volochayeuka Captured 13/8/41 Nikolaiev. Sunk Feodosia 9/1/42.

Zuik Fate unknown.

Other ship captures:

2 landing craft on the Dniepr estuary autumn 1943

2 patrol boats ex-Dneipr flotilla by bicycle troops 1/9/41 (Boats V-78 and V-92?)

Lake Ilmen

About 50 fishing boats out of a total of 80 on the lake were captured by the Germans and continued to operate in that capacity supplying local units under German supervision. Several of these were sunk in various engagements later on with Soviet craft on the lake.

Lake Peipus

The Germans refloated several vessels scuttled by the Soviets in late 1941 including several armed steamers and tugs.

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Post by Universal the God of War » 19 Apr 2006 18:22

Dont forget the under-construction Sovietskiy Ukrainia

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Re: did germans capture any russian warships?

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 21 Jul 2019 09:58

So many Soviet ships captured by the Germans during WWII! I think the Germans also captured a few Soviet submarines in port and at sea as well. I don't think the Germans managed to capture a big gunned destroyer.
I wondered how the Germans managed to capture about 50 of Soviet fishing boats on Lake Ilmen? Did German patrol boats captured and round them up?
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Post by lupodimare89 » 30 Jul 2019 10:34

So many Soviet ships captured by the Germans during WWII! I think the Germans also captured a few Soviet submarines in port and at sea as well. I don't think the Germans managed to capture a big gunned destroyer.
For what i know, the only sub. truly "captured" was S-1: scuttled by Soviets but raised by Germans before being sunk as target. No active destroyer captured.
I wondered how the Germans managed to capture about 50 of Soviet fishing boats on Lake Ilmen? Did German patrol boats captured and round them up?
Ilmen Lake operations has LONG been an annoying unexplained area to me, because apparently there is extremely scarce info.
In 1942 German Army (and Luftwaffe) made-up their own small flotillas but apart patrols there were no episodes surfaced on the internet describing potential actions. The fact it was no Kriegsmarine area of competence it's a bad point (so naval KTB and Ultra doesn't speak of the Lake operations!).
I may GUESS the bulk of the fishing boats were captured on the initial offensive (abandoned on shore etc.). But maybe some were later captured in small raids operations.

At the same time, in 1943 it was the Soviet's turn to make their own Flotilla when... Germans already disbanded their own!
But there is a (short) account, integrated by user igor , of 3 separate incidents of Soviet boats re-capturing 5 fishing boats (each time capturing civilian collaborationists) and claims of much more boats sunk/destroyed.

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 31 Jul 2019 10:22

I didn't know that the Heer and the Luftwaffe had small armed ships other than the Siebel ferries that were armed with 88mm cannons. I guess the regular German Heer had a small armed navy. The Luftwaffe had a few seaplane tenders but not much is known about the Luftwaffe having a small armed navy. The German Wehrmacht of WWII is still filled with unknown aspects when it comes to battles,ships,weapons,commando raids,even soldiers whose exploits were little known. I know the Brandenburgers had a small navy.

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Post by lupodimare89 » 02 Aug 2019 09:36

Edward L. Hsiao wrote:
31 Jul 2019 10:22
I didn't know that the Heer and the Luftwaffe had small armed ships other than the Siebel ferries that were armed with 88mm cannons.
In most of cases (Heer in Leningrad siege, Azov Sea, Heer & Luftwaffe in Ilmen Lake, etc.) we are speaking of far smaller boats with less weapons.
Sturmboot, or locally adquired re-armed motorboats etc.

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Post by Tony D. » 03 Sep 2019 00:23

During World War One the Russian battleship Imperator Alexandr III was taken over by the Soviets and renamed Volya ("Freedom") on 29 April 1917. In May 1918 she was captured by the Germans at Sevastopol and subsequently commissioned in the German Navy on 15 October 1918.

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