Japanese takeover of Shanghai International Settlement

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Japanese takeover of Shanghai International Settlement

Post by Leo Niehorster » 02 Jun 2006 13:53

Split from Shanghai 1932--Moderator

> References mention the Shanghai SNLF still in China 1939/41.Did it continue to garrison Shanghai or did it fight further west against the Chinese?

Shanghai SNLF continued until the WWII ended. Until 1941, they sent troops out of Shanghai sometimes. But, during the Pacific War, they were devoting themselves to defend Shanghai.

> Was it involved in the takeover of the International Settlement of Shanghai in December 1941?

Yes. They engaged with the occupation of the settlement together with army units.


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Were there any naval vessels involved in the Shanghai takeover in December 1941?
Which Army units?

TIA Leo

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Post by Akira Takizawa » 02 Jun 2006 15:40

> Were there any naval vessels involved in the Shanghai takeover in December 1941?

Toba, Izumo, Hasu.

> Which Army units?

Unknown

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Post by Peter H » 02 Jun 2006 15:53

My understanding is that the British withdrew their garrison from the International Settlement in August 1940.The US Marines left on the 28th November 1941.The French remained neutral as part of the Vichy government.The Italians as well.

The Japanese takeover hence meet no land resistance.Only the French sector was not occupied.

The British gunboat HMS Petrel was fired on by the Izumo and sunk.USS Wake was also captured by the Japanese.See below:

http://www.hmsfalcon.com/Peterel/Peterel.htm

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Shanghai on Dec. 8th, 1941

Post by Akira Takizawa » 02 Jun 2006 17:00

Photos at Shanghai on Dec. 8th, 1941

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Post by Peter H » 16 Jun 2006 04:49

The 4th Division was at Shanghai under the direct command of Imperial GHQ in early December 1941.This may have been the Army unit involved.

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Post by hisashi » 16 Jun 2006 06:47

According to teikoku rikugun hensei youran (handbook of IJA organizations), 13th army HQ and 11th independent mixed brigade HQ were located at Shanghai in Dec 1941. 11th IMB was responsible for the security of south side of lower Yantze River under 13th army. Because anticipated conflict was not severe, it would be natural for Shanghai SNLF to talk to local HQ for coordination than talking to army GHQ.

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Post by Peter H » 16 Jun 2006 07:18

Thanks maisov.

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Post by Jerry Asher » 30 Jul 2007 02:53

Many thanks to Taki and Peter:

As always they are most helpful.

Taki--do you have any further information on the movement of the 4th Division to the Philippines?

More precise dates?
Ship moements?
Escorts?

Again, thank you for your assistance.

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Post by Akira Takizawa » 30 Jul 2007 03:30

Jerry Asher wrote:Taki--do you have any further information on the movement of the 4th Division to the Philippines?


I don't know the details.

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Post by Jerry Asher » 30 Jul 2007 04:42

Many thanks Taki

if I find out anything I'll post it.

Warmest regards Jery

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Post by cstunts » 31 Jul 2007 15:08

Hello,

Both Quentin Reynolds' OFFICIALLY DEAD and J.G. Ballard's EMPIRE OF THE SUN contain vivid and accurate descriptions of the takeover of Shanghai. The latter author was present as a youngster & an eyewitness to the attack & brutal sinking of HMS PETREL. Both highly recommended. MUCH in these fine works beyond mere facts, figures, and statistics.

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Post by Windward » 31 Jul 2007 20:59

As showed by this map, Shanghai International Settlement was consisted by two areas, the yellow area, which had a huge Japanese neighborhood and was controled by Japanese naval troops (1) after 1937, and the red area, took over by Japanese troops in 1941, was secured by British (2), American (3) and Italian (4) troops.

The blue area was French settlement. Japanese intended to declare it "open city" in 1942, to store war materials and supplies to avoid allied air raids, but the proposal was refused by British and American.

Area (4), (5) and (7) were called "Outside Roads", 越界筑路, Chinese territories that were controled and administrated by settlement authorities. Area (4) (Italian) and (5) (British) belonged to the International Settlement, and (7) was attached to French Settlement.

British troops withdrew from area (5) after August 1940, then it was took over by Japanese troops. French troops withdrew from area (7) after June 1940.


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Post by Windward » 31 Jul 2007 21:29

a footnote. Japanese didn't round up allied citizens immediately after they took over International Settlement. At first, only British and American adult citizens were ordered for register (British: 2681 male and 2412 female, American: 700 male and 477 female). Their factories, warehouses, bank accounts and real estates were registered too, later be frozen or confiscated (same were Belgian properties).

Since March 1 1942, Japan began to exchange civilians with US. After October 1 1942, "hostile citizens" were ordered to wear red armband to identify. There's a letter on the armband, "A" for America, "B" for British, "N" for netherlands, others were "X". These "hostile citizen" were forbided enter theaters, cinemas, bars, clubs and bars since Oct 15 1942. Later French Settlement also forbided American and British citizens enter its parks and theaters. After Nov 13, all properties of hostile citizen were confiscated, from radio, camera and furniture to fan and stove.

According to Japanese, those "hostile citizens" incude citizens of UK, US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, Belgium, Netherland, Haiti, Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Dominica, Cuba and Panama. But citizens of Brazil, Mexico, Columbia, Iran, Iraq and Greece were not "hostile citizens", although these countries declared war against Axis in 1942 and 1943.

The round up of Allied citizens began on Feb 15 1943.


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Re: Japanese takeover of Shanghai International Settlement

Post by Peter H » 22 Aug 2010 10:23

A larger version of the tank photo posted by Taki above
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Re: Japanese takeover of Shanghai International Settlement

Post by Peter H » 22 Aug 2010 10:29

The seizure of USS Wake
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