Help Id. this AA guns

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Help Id. this AA guns

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Oct 2008, 11:59

Hello,

Who can help me to identify these AA japanese guns?

I think that the first could be a 10cm Type 14 or a 7.5cm Type 11, and the second could be a 2cm Type 98 possibly


Images from ebay.com (usa)

Regards.
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Post by tom! » 04 Oct 2008, 12:30

Hi.

The first pic shows a type Taisho 14 10 cm aa-gun.

The second pic shows a type 1 Rheinmetall type 37 mm aa-gun, based on the german 3,7 cm Flak 18.

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Oct 2008, 21:19

Thanks you very much for your help Tom.

Tom, I am searching info and photos of 240mm Tpe 96 Jap howitzer and 150mm Type 96 gun.
In your web page www.technik.com you had a lot information and superb photos but now I cannot see
this photos. Why??

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Post by tom! » 04 Oct 2008, 23:05

I´m currently reworking my website which also includes a copyright check. Therefore the pics were temporarily removed.

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Post by David Thompson » 05 Oct 2008, 02:49

Sturm78 -- If you haven't already seen it, you might try this period publication to tide you over until Tom's photos come back. It has information on both field pieces:

Japanese Field Artillery, Special Series No. 25 (Nov 1944) [16.7 MB pdf download]
http://cgsc.leavenworth.army.mil/carl/w ... mber25.pdf

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Oct 2008, 11:19

Sorry Tom. The page was http://www.ww2technik.de :oops:

you can not see the pictures you had in this page :roll:

Have you more information about 37mm Type 1 AAgun. I did not know nothing about this weapon
Years of manufacturing. quantity produced'?

thanks in advance.

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Post by tom! » 05 Oct 2008, 12:28

All informations I have on this gun are from Ground Power Special Issue March 2005 "Less Known Army Ordnance Of The Rising Sun". As my japanese knowledge is poor I can only give a general overview.

IJA was interested in developing a 37 mm aa-gun from 1937 on. In 1941 several tests with various german automatic guns like the 2 cm Flak 30, the MG151/20 and the 3,7 cm Flak 18 were made.

There were at least two versions of this gun built under the designation type Ra 37 mm automatic gun:

ST22 with a cruciform lafette, a slightly remodelled 3,7 cm Flak 18
ST24 with a triangular lafette similar to the one used on the german 3,7 cm Flak 36 but smaler

It seems that serial production was planned in 1944 with a modified triangular lafette as type 1 37 mm automatic gun.

Maybe Taki can give additional infos and necessary corrections?


The attached pics are taken from the book mentioned above.

Yours

tom! :wink:
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Post by Akira Takizawa » 05 Oct 2008, 13:55

tom!,

Your Japanese is good. But, I add some.

The Japanese captured some Rheinmetall 37 mm AA guns in China and imported some from Germany. They were called Type Ra 37mm AA Gun (Ra means Rheinmetall). The IJA copied it under the designation of Type 1. It is not clear how many Type 1 was produced. But, a few, probably three or five were produced in 1944-45. Note that the photos and drowing that you uploaded above are assumed all Type Ra made in Germany. The photo of 37mm AA gun surely made in Japan is not known.

Taki

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Oct 2008, 20:01

Hi all,

Thank you very much, Tom and Akira, for your great info and pictures of this little-known gun.
I guess that the gun of my photo is the version ST22, as it presents a cruciform-platform.
In the background you can see what appears to be a limber of the gun.


David, thanks for your help. The information of your link is very good :D ,
although there is little info about 240mm Type 96 howitzer and 150mm Type 96 gun.
Its a really interesting document.

Here I put the only photograph I have in my computer of 240mm Type 96 howitzer:
Sorry, I do not remember the website where got it.
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