Officer's School?
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Officer's School?
According to The Naval Database, KAMIKAWA MARU Gunnery Officer (appointed 15 October 1940) LCDR ARUGA Bunkichi was a graduate of the 1st Class of a place that translates as 'Solider's College'. Japanese kanji reads as 兵専. Anyone know what school this is? TIA for any info!
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Hello ijnfleetadmiral,
Probably 兵専 is incorrect. I think 兵選 is correct. 兵選 was the abbreviation of 海軍兵学校選修学生 Naval Academy Elective Course Trainee. The Elective Course carried out officer education of one year for chosen noncommissioned officers in Naval Academy. The graduate was promoted to a special duty officer. This system began in 1920. Therefore, LCDR ARUGA Bunkichi graduated in 1921.
The below is the list of Naval Academy Elective Course Trainee.
http://www2b.biglobe.ne.jp/~yorozu/sub2 ... kusei.html
fontessa
Probably 兵専 is incorrect. I think 兵選 is correct. 兵選 was the abbreviation of 海軍兵学校選修学生 Naval Academy Elective Course Trainee. The Elective Course carried out officer education of one year for chosen noncommissioned officers in Naval Academy. The graduate was promoted to a special duty officer. This system began in 1920. Therefore, LCDR ARUGA Bunkichi graduated in 1921.
The below is the list of Naval Academy Elective Course Trainee.
http://www2b.biglobe.ne.jp/~yorozu/sub2 ... kusei.html
fontessa
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A class listing? SWEET! Thanks so much! A few questions:
1) What were the promotion times for Special Duty officers? Example: the usual Eta Jima path shows that someone who graduated in 1921 would probably have been a CDR by 1938. So for ARUGA Bunkichi it would be like so:
Graduated Special Duty Course, commissioned ENS - unknown month, 1921 (I use ENS as IIRC only Academy graduates held the rank of Midshipman)
LTJG - 1923? (normal two years Time In Grade)
LT - 1926-27 (normal three to four years TIG)
LCDR - 1932-35 (maximum of eight years TIG)
Thoughts?
2) I found an officer named AIZAWA Kitaichi (相沢 喜多一) in Special Duty Class 3. I have in my records an AIZAWA Kitakazu, who was KIA as Operations Officer of NISSHIN on 22 July 1943. Are these the same individuals?
3) What's the English translation for the following names?
元 恵熊 (Special Duty Class 3)
宮山定了 (Special Duty Class 6) family name MIYAYAMA
板橋音丸 (Special Duty Class 7) family name ISHIBASHI
水永 巳子男 (Special Duty Class 7) family name MIZUNAGA
伊賀 上謙蔵 (Special Duty Class 9)
北永繁喜 (Special Duty Class 9)
1) What were the promotion times for Special Duty officers? Example: the usual Eta Jima path shows that someone who graduated in 1921 would probably have been a CDR by 1938. So for ARUGA Bunkichi it would be like so:
Graduated Special Duty Course, commissioned ENS - unknown month, 1921 (I use ENS as IIRC only Academy graduates held the rank of Midshipman)
LTJG - 1923? (normal two years Time In Grade)
LT - 1926-27 (normal three to four years TIG)
LCDR - 1932-35 (maximum of eight years TIG)
Thoughts?
2) I found an officer named AIZAWA Kitaichi (相沢 喜多一) in Special Duty Class 3. I have in my records an AIZAWA Kitakazu, who was KIA as Operations Officer of NISSHIN on 22 July 1943. Are these the same individuals?
3) What's the English translation for the following names?
元 恵熊 (Special Duty Class 3)
宮山定了 (Special Duty Class 6) family name MIYAYAMA
板橋音丸 (Special Duty Class 7) family name ISHIBASHI
水永 巳子男 (Special Duty Class 7) family name MIZUNAGA
伊賀 上謙蔵 (Special Duty Class 9)
北永繁喜 (Special Duty Class 9)
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Hello ijnfleetadmiral,
Special Duty Officers promoted to CDR:
壇原袈裟由 DANHARA Kesato: LCDR (15 November 1938) / CDR (1 May 1944)
三沢千一 MISAWA Sen’ichi: LCDR (15 November 1940) / CDR (15 October 1944)
酒井常十 SAKAI Tsuneju: LCDR[Eng.] (15 November 1939) / CDR[Eng.] (15 October 1944)
宮山定了: MIYAYAMA Sadaaki
板橋音丸: ITABASHI Otomatu
水永巳子男: MIZUNAGA Mineo
伊賀上謙蔵: IGA ??? (I can’t read the first name.)
北永繁喜: KITANAGA Shigeyoshi
fontessa
I think promotion was slower than a regular officer for a special duty officer. There are only 3 special duty officers promoted to CDR. As for ARUGA Bunkichi, he was still LTJG in 1930.ijnfleetadmiral wrote: 1) What were the promotion times for Special Duty officers? Example: the usual Eta Jima path shows that someone who graduated in 1921 would probably have been a CDR by 1938. So for ARUGA Bunkichi it would be like so:
Graduated Special Duty Course, commissioned ENS - unknown month, 1921 (I use ENS as IIRC only Academy graduates held the rank of Midshipman)
LTJG - 1923? (normal two years Time In Grade)
LT - 1926-27 (normal three to four years TIG)
LCDR - 1932-35 (maximum of eight years TIG)
Thoughts?
Special Duty Officers promoted to CDR:
壇原袈裟由 DANHARA Kesato: LCDR (15 November 1938) / CDR (1 May 1944)
三沢千一 MISAWA Sen’ichi: LCDR (15 November 1940) / CDR (15 October 1944)
酒井常十 SAKAI Tsuneju: LCDR[Eng.] (15 November 1939) / CDR[Eng.] (15 October 1944)
Yes they were the same person.ijnfleetadmiral wrote: 2) I found an officer named AIZAWA Kitaichi (相沢 喜多一) in Special Duty Class 3. I have in my records an AIZAWA Kitakazu, who was KIA as Operations Officer of NISSHIN on 22 July 1943. Are these the same individuals?
元恵熊: MOTO Shigekumaijnfleetadmiral wrote: 3) What's the English translation for the following names?
元 恵熊 (Special Duty Class 3)
宮山定了 (Special Duty Class 6) family name MIYAYAMA
板橋音丸 (Special Duty Class 7) family name ISHIBASHI
水永 巳子男 (Special Duty Class 7) family name MIZUNAGA
伊賀 上謙蔵 (Special Duty Class 9)
北永繁喜 (Special Duty Class 9)
宮山定了: MIYAYAMA Sadaaki
板橋音丸: ITABASHI Otomatu
水永巳子男: MIZUNAGA Mineo
伊賀上謙蔵: IGA ??? (I can’t read the first name.)
北永繁喜: KITANAGA Shigeyoshi
fontessa
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Re: Officer's School?
Awesome...thanks! A couple questions:
1) Were there separate courses for Special Duty Engineers and Paymasters, or was there just one course for all Special Duty Officers?
2) I have an officer from Class 15 named IIZUKA Riichi (or IIZUKA Tomokazu). The kanji for his name is: 飯塚利一. Was this the same officer as IIZUKA Tomokichi, who was KIA as CO of kaibokan SHONAN on 25 February 1945?
Here are a few more names:
松本 太四郎 (Special Duty Class 12) family name MATSUMOTO
宮永栄熊 (Special Duty Class 12) family name MIYANAGA
完田 一 (Special Duty Class 13)
規家作太 (Special Duty Class 15)
1) Were there separate courses for Special Duty Engineers and Paymasters, or was there just one course for all Special Duty Officers?
2) I have an officer from Class 15 named IIZUKA Riichi (or IIZUKA Tomokazu). The kanji for his name is: 飯塚利一. Was this the same officer as IIZUKA Tomokichi, who was KIA as CO of kaibokan SHONAN on 25 February 1945?
Here are a few more names:
松本 太四郎 (Special Duty Class 12) family name MATSUMOTO
宮永栄熊 (Special Duty Class 12) family name MIYANAGA
完田 一 (Special Duty Class 13)
規家作太 (Special Duty Class 15)
ARUGA and another individual - AIZAWA Kitaichi (Class 3) achieved the rank posthumously. Both were KIA when NISSHIN was sunk on 22 July 1943, ARUGA as Gunnery Officer and AIZAWA as Operations Officer.fontessa wrote:There are only 3 special duty officers promoted to CDR.
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Hello ijnfleetadmiral,
宮永栄熊: MIYANAGA Hidekuma
完田一: KANDA Hajime
規家作太: NORIIE Sakuta
fontessa
I think there was the separate course for Special Duty Engineers and Paymasters.ijnfleetadmiral wrote: 1) Were there separate courses for Special Duty Engineers and Paymasters, or was there just one course for all Special Duty Officers?
No, the Kanji for IIZUKA Tomokichi was 飯塚倶吉. He was a reserve officer, not a special duty officer.ijnfleetadmiral wrote: 2) I have an officer from Class 15 named IIZUKA Riichi (or IIZUKA Tomokazu). The kanji for his name is: 飯塚利一. Was this the same officer as IIZUKA Tomokichi, who was KIA as CO of kaibokan SHONAN on 25 February 1945?
松本太四郎: MATSUMOTO Tashiroijnfleetadmiral wrote: Here are a few more names:
松本 太四郎 (Special Duty Class 12) family name MATSUMOTO
宮永栄熊 (Special Duty Class 12) family name MIYANAGA
完田 一 (Special Duty Class 13)
規家作太 (Special Duty Class 15)
宮永栄熊: MIYANAGA Hidekuma
完田一: KANDA Hajime
規家作太: NORIIE Sakuta
I meant "While living, only 3 special duty officers promoted to CDR."ijnfleetadmiral wrote:ARUGA and another individual - AIZAWA Kitaichi (Class 3) achieved the rank posthumously. Both were KIA when NISSHIN was sunk on 22 July 1943, ARUGA as Gunnery Officer and AIZAWA as Operations Officer.fontessa wrote: There are only 3 special duty officers promoted to CDR.
fontessa
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Thanks for the translations!
Ah. I don't suppose you know of a website listing the graduates of that course? Or even a website listing the graduates of the Engineer and Paymaster Academies?fontessa wrote:I think there was the separate course for Special Duty Engineers and Paymasters.
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Hello ijnfleetadmiral,
Both Engineers and Paymasters Schools had special duty officer courses. But the register doesn't exist on the web. Graduate's register at those schools doesn't exist on the web, too.
fontessa
Both Engineers and Paymasters Schools had special duty officer courses. But the register doesn't exist on the web. Graduate's register at those schools doesn't exist on the web, too.
fontessa
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Have a few more names to translate:
茅根 進 (Special Duty Class 16) - family name CHINONE???
稲吉軍太 (Special Duty Class 16) - family name INAYOSHI
久保寿介 (Special Duty Class 16) - family name KUBO
船曳金一 (Special Duty Class 16)
茅根 進 (Special Duty Class 16) - family name CHINONE???
稲吉軍太 (Special Duty Class 16) - family name INAYOSHI
久保寿介 (Special Duty Class 16) - family name KUBO
船曳金一 (Special Duty Class 16)
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Hello ijnfleetadmiral,
I think:
茅根 進: CHINONE Susumu
稲吉軍太: INAYOSHI Gunta
久保寿介: KUBO Jusuke
船曳金一: FUNABIKI Kin'ichi
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I think:
茅根 進: CHINONE Susumu
稲吉軍太: INAYOSHI Gunta
久保寿介: KUBO Jusuke
船曳金一: FUNABIKI Kin'ichi
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Awesome...thanks! One more for you:
伊藤 志五市 (Special Duty Class 18) - family name ITO
伊藤 志五市 (Special Duty Class 18) - family name ITO
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Got a few more for you:
林 五六 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name HAYASHI
渡部 可治雄 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name WATANABE
吉田巳子雄 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name YOSHIDA
国上 勝 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
田場川 義喜 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
前 喜代次 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
油井国衛 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
林 五六 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name HAYASHI
渡部 可治雄 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name WATANABE
吉田巳子雄 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name YOSHIDA
国上 勝 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
田場川 義喜 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
前 喜代次 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
油井国衛 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
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Hello ijnfleetadmiral,
伊藤志五市: ITO Shigoichi
林五六: HAYASHI Itsumu
渡部可治雄: WATANABE Kajio
吉田巳子雄: YOSHIDA Mineo
国上勝: KUNIGAMI Masaru
田場川義喜: TABAGAWA Yoshiki
前喜代次: MAE Kiyotsugu
油井国衛: YUI Kunie
fontessa
I think:ijnfleetadmiral wrote: 伊藤 志五市 (Special Duty Class 18) - family name ITO
林 五六 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name HAYASHI
渡部 可治雄 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name WATANABE
吉田巳子雄 (Special Duty Class 19) - family name YOSHIDA
国上 勝 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
田場川 義喜 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
前 喜代次 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
油井国衛 (Special Duty Class 19) - ???
伊藤志五市: ITO Shigoichi
林五六: HAYASHI Itsumu
渡部可治雄: WATANABE Kajio
吉田巳子雄: YOSHIDA Mineo
国上勝: KUNIGAMI Masaru
田場川義喜: TABAGAWA Yoshiki
前喜代次: MAE Kiyotsugu
油井国衛: YUI Kunie
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Awesome...thanks! Here's a few more:
片山○一 (Special Duty Class 20) - family name KATAYAMA
山下 ○ (Special Duty Class 20) - family name YAMASHITA
阿美 古義士 (Special Duty Class 20) - ???
片山○一 (Special Duty Class 20) - family name KATAYAMA
山下 ○ (Special Duty Class 20) - family name YAMASHITA
阿美 古義士 (Special Duty Class 20) - ???
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