#'s of torpedo boats or destroyers

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#'s of torpedo boats or destroyers

Post by jerryasher » 15 Apr 2019 22:21

Prior to the late 1920's torpedo boats and destroyers were not assigned names but were identified with numbers. Doe anyone have a list? Particular interest of #'s 7.8.9 at Hong Kong May-June 1919. I have Ships of the World # 7 History of Japanese Destroyers (don't read Japanese and haven't been able to pattern it out) and Jentschura, " Warships of the Imperial Navy, 1869-1945," and tried Miramar. Many thanks in advance.

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Re: #'s of torpedo boats or destroyers

Post by ijnfleetadmiral » 15 Apr 2019 22:44

I don't know if this is what you're talking about, but here are the numbered DDs for WWII:

DD-1 - KAMIKAZE (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-2 - WAKATAKE (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-3 - ASAKAZE (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-4 - KURETAKE (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-5 - HARUKAZE (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-6 - SANAE (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-7 - MATSUKAZE (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-8 - SAWARABI (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-9 - HATAKAZE (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-10 - ASAGAO (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-11 - OITE (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-12 - YUGAO (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-13 - HAYATE (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-14 - NOT BUILT (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-15 - ASANAGI (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-16 - FUYO (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-17 - YUNAGI (KAMIKAZE-class)
DD-18 - KARUKAYA (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-19 - MUTSUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-20 - NOT BUILT (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-21 - KISARAGI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-22 - NOT BUILT (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-23 - YAYOI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-24 - NOT BUILT (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-25 - UZUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-26 - NOT BUILT (WAKATAKE-class)
DD-27 - SATSUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-28 - MINAZUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-29 - FUMIZUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-30 - NAGATSUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-31 - KIKUZUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-32 - MIKAZUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-33 - MOCHIZUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-34 - YUZUKI (MUTSUKI-class)
DD-35 - FUBUKI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-36 - SHIRAYUKI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-37 - HATSUYUKI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-38 - MIYUKI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-39 - MURAKUMO (FUBUKI-class)
DD-40 - SHINONOME (FUBUKI-class)
DD-41 - USUGUMO (FUBUKI-class)
DD-42 - SHIRAKUMO (FUBUKI-class)
DD-43 - ISONAMI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-44 - URANAMI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-45 - AYANAMI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-46 - SHIKINAMI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-47 - ASAGIRI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-48 - YUGIRI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-49 - AMAGIRI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-50 - SAGIRI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-51 - OBORO (FUBUKI-class)
DD-52 - AKEBONO (FUBUKI-class)
DD-53 - SAZANAMI (FUBUKI-class)
DD-54 - USHIO (FUBUKI-class)
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Re: #'s of torpedo boats or destroyers

Post by jerryasher » 15 Apr 2019 23:46

Many thanks ijnfleetadmiral---I'm searching a little earlier, possibly Harusame clas of 1902 or 1904 war class. Jentschura page 139-145 confirms your listing. Thank you for your effort. Years ago I had someone do some translations on a book in Japanese on Ops in Chinese Water--will try to go back and do more---book is in UCLA library

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Re: #'s of torpedo boats or destroyers

Post by fontessa » 16 Apr 2019 00:05

Hello jerryasher,

艇番号付水雷艇 Topredo Boat (TB) with boat number
二等水雷艇 2nd Class TB
・Type 21 TB: No.21 TB, No.24 TB
・Type 22 TB: No.22 TB, No.23 TB, No.25 TB, No.31 TB, No.32 TB, No.33 TB, No.34 TB, No.35 TB, No.36 TB, No.37 TB, No.38 TB,
       No.44 TB, No.45 TB, No.46 TB, No.47 TB, No.48 TB, No.49 TB, No.60 TB, No.61 TB
・Type 29 TB: No.29 TB, No.30 TB
・Type 39 TB: No.39 TB, No.40 TB, No.41 TB, No.42 TB, No.43 TB, No.62 TB, No.63 TB, No.64.TB, No. 65 TB, No.66 TB
・Type 67 TB: No.67 TB, No.68 TB, No.69 TB, No.70 TB, No.71 TB, No.72 TB, No.73 TB, No.74 TB, No.75 TB
三等水雷艇 3rd Class TB
・Type 1 TB: No.1 TB, No.2 TB, No.3 TB, No.4 TB
・Type 5 TB: No.5 TB, No.6 TB, No.7 TB, No.8 TB, No.9 TB, No.10 TB, No.11 TB, No.12 TB, No.13 TB, No.14 TB, No.16 TB, No.17 TB,
      No.18 TB, No.19 TB
・Type 15 TB: No.15 TB, No.21 TB
・Type 50 TB: No.50 TB, No.51 TB, No.52 TB, No.53 TB, No.54 TB, No.55 TB, No.56 TB, No.57 TB, No.58 TB, No.59 TB

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Re: #'s of torpedo boats or destroyers

Post by jerryasher » 16 Apr 2019 15:50

Thank You fontessa' I'm guessing the Type 5 is the group I'm searching for--( I have a citation for # 19 on the Yangzi at about this time). I am still unable to match it up with Jentschura's "Warships of the Imperial Japanese Navy" which I thought was the gold standard. Many, Many thanks. Am working on a tabular record of movement of Japanese ships in Chinese waters ==If anyone interested. Again, many thanks to all of you.

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Re: #'s of torpedo boats or destroyers

Post by fontessa » 16 Apr 2019 16:38

Hello jerryasher,

According to Wiki, Typ 5 Toapedo Boats participated in the Sino-Japanese War and were removed from a register by 1910.
Does this fit your interest?

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Re: #'s of torpedo boats or destroyers

Post by jerryasher » 16 Apr 2019 19:22

Thank you Fontessa: Briefly, once a nation became a participant in World War 1, it's warships lost the right to "visit," all ports in China. Thus Japan, on its "Declaration of War," on August 23rd, 1914, no longer could dispatch warships until China itself declared war on August 14th, 1917. I am looking at the resumption of deployments, relooking to find news article on appointment of new C.O.'s of river gunboats in late 1917 and the December 10th arrival of DD Shirakumo at Shantou in 1917, Saga, Sakura and Tachibana at Fuzhou in November 1919, I have the Izumo with torpedo boats 7. 8 and 9 arriving at Hong Kong early June 1919. Thank you for your interest and patience. Somebody must have published an account of Japanese gunboats on the Yangzi in part or whole of 1917-1945. If anyone knows a title, let me know. Again many thanks.

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