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CO's, IJN Sub. Div 1

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Post by Steve E » 07 Oct 2019, 12:10

Hallo Fontessa San.
The Naval Data Base lists Lt.Sekino Akira 関野 明 [38] and Lt. Ikeda Susumu 池田 晋 [38](The name could be Ikeda Satoshi or Ikeda Shin) as CO's of Sub.Div.1.

関野明Sekino Akira､-1945(兵38､117/149東京).大佐.
17.12/1大尉､第1潜水艇隊艇長>第11潜水隊艦長20.5/24第12潜水隊艦長12/1第39潜水艦艤装員心得21.8/1-22.12/1艦長心得22.2/1第39潜水艦竣工
23.12/1少佐>呂12艦長25.12/1呂55艦長
29.11/30中佐>第4潜水隊司令32.12/1球磨副長>第18潜水隊司令34.11/15-35.11/15第17潜水隊司令
35.11/15大佐
45.7/3死去

池田晋､-1971(兵38､124/149長崎).少佐.
大尉17.12/1第1潜水艇隊艇長
71.5/23死去

This is obviously wrong since as Lt's they would not be CO's of a Sub Div.
Could they have been the CO's of Submarine No-1 instead ?
It would be an easy mistake to make. Submarine Boat Division= 潜水艇隊艇長 Submarine Boat=潜水隊艦長
What do you think?
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Re: CO's, IJN Sub. Div 1

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Post by fontessa » 07 Oct 2019, 15:01

Hello Steve E,
Steve E wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2019, 12:10
 This is obviously wrong since as Lt's they would not be CO's of a Sub Div.
You are correct. We should read 第1潜水艇隊艇長 as Skipper of 1st Submersible Boat Division.
The below is the list of Majora Offcers of 第1潜水艇隊 on 1 December 1917. It had 6 Submersible Boats.
第1潜水隊司令心得 (ACTING) CO of 1st Submersible Boat Division
LCDR YOSHIYAMA Hyakuri 吉山百重 (32)
第1潜水艇隊艇長 Skippers of 1st Submersible Boat Division
LT HIGUCHI Shuichiro 樋口修一郎 (37)
LT FUKUDA Ryozo 福田良三 (38)
LT TAKATSUKA Shogo 高塚省吾 (38)
LT IKEDA Susumu 池田晋 (38)
LT NAKAGAWA Junkiti 中川順吉 (38)
LT SEKINO Akira 関野明 (38)
隊附 General Duty Officer
LT NARA Mashika 奈良真鹿 (Eng.19)
Steve E wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2019, 12:10
 Submarine Boat Division= 潜水艇隊艇長 Submarine Boat=潜水隊艦長
Submersible Boat Division= 潜水艇隊 Submersible Boat= 潜水艇
Submarine Division= 潜水艦隊 Submarine = 潜水艦

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Re: CO's, IJN Sub. Div 1

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Post by fontessa » 08 Oct 2019, 09:17

Hello Steve E,

Although no all, the below is the list of Skippers.


1st Submersible Boat Division
Established on 1 August 1905 as 1st Submersible Division.
Renamed 1st Submarine Division on 1 April 1919.
Skippers
LT / LCDR TOJO Meiji 東條明次 (21): 1 August 1905 - 12 December 1905
(ADD) LCDR LCDR TOJO Meiji 東條明次 (21): 12 December 1905 - 25 January 1906
LCDR / LCDR TOJO Meiji 東條明次 (21): 25 January 1906 - 28 Sept 1906
LTJG / LT SHIGEOKA Nobujiro 重岡信治郎 (30): 4 March 1907 (ACTING) - 28 October 1907
LCDR / LCDR TOJO Meiji 東條明次 (21): 30 October 1907 - 23 December 1908
LT / LT INOUE Inokichi 井上猪之吉 (27): 23 December 1908 - 2 December 1909 (1909.12.2.Frm4)
LT / LT IMAIZUMI Tetsutaro 今泉哲太郎 (25): 1 December 1909 - 1 April 1910 (1909.12.2.Frm3)
LCDR OTAWARA Toru 太田原達 (26): 17 April 1909 - 1 December 1912
LT / LT MASHIKO Rokuya 益子六弥 (30): 21 April 1910 - 23 May 1911
LT / LT YAMAKADO Shin’ichiro 山角真一郎 (32): 1 December 1910 - 8 September 1913 (DFI?) (1910.12.2.Frm9)
LT / LT INOUE Choji 井上肇治 (33): 1 December 1911 - 1 April 1913 (1911.12.2.Frm16)
LT / LT SUZUKI Takeo 鈴木武雄 (30): ??? - 1 December 1912 (1912.12.2.Frm17)
LT / LT YOSHIYAMA Hyakuri 吉山百重 (32): 19 March 1911 - 1 December 1911 (Frm1911.12.2.Frm13)
LT / LT YOSHIYAMA Hyakuri 吉山百重 (32): 1 December 1912 - ??? (1912.12.2.Frm15)
LT / LT AOKI Teinosuke 青木貞之助 (31): 1 December 1912 - ??? (1912.12.2.Frm15)
LT / LT KANBAYASHI Kiyoshi 上林潔 (34): 1 December 1913 - ??? (1913.12.2.Frm16)
LT / LT MASE Tokuji 馬瀬篤治 (34): 1 December 1913 - ??? (1913.12.2.Frm16)
LT / LT KAWANO Michinori 河野通徳 (32): 1 December 1913 - ??? (1913.12.2.Frm15)
LT / LT ITO Teiichi 伊藤貞一 (34): 1 December 1913 - ??? (1913.12.2.Frm11)
LT / LT TABUSE Akira 田伏亮 (34): 1 December 1913 - ??? (1913.12.2.Frm11)
LT / LT NOBETA Shigeoki 野辺田重興 (32): ??? - 1 December 1913 (1913.12.2.Frm10)
LT / LT IKUTA Yaichi 生田矢一 (32): ??? - 1 December 1913 (1913.12.2.Frm10)
LT / LT KAWAMURA Shigemoto 河村重幹 (33): 15 August 1914 - 1 December 1914
LT / LT KUMMAZAWA Masuo 熊沢舛蔵 (37): 1 December 1916 - 1 December 1917 (1916.12.2.Frm19 / 1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT TAKASU Sanjiro 高須三二郎 (37): 1 December 1916 - 1 December 1917 (1916.12.2.Frm19 / 1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT WATANABE Tokushiro 渡部徳四郎 (37): 1 December 1916 - 1 December 1917 (1916.12.2.Frm15 / 1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT MIYAZAKI Taira 宮崎平 (37): 1 December 1916 - 1 December 1917 (1916.12.2.Frm15 / 1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT YAMANAKA Kojiro 山中孝次郎 (37): 1 December 1916 - 1 December 1917 (1916.12.2.Frm16 / 1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LTHIGUCHI Shuichiro 樋口修一郎 (37): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm21)
LT / LT TAKATSUKA Seigo 高塚省吾 (38): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT IKEDA Susumu 池田晋 (38): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm19)
LT / LT NAKAGAWA Jun’kichi 中川順吉 (38): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm19)
LT / LT FUKUDA Ryozo 福田良三 (38): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm21)
LT / LT SEKINO Akira 関野明 (38): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm19)
LT / LT OZAKI Atsuro 尾崎篤郎 (37): ??? - 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT KASUGA Atsushi 春日篤 (37): 2 November 1918 - 13 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT OKA TAKAZUMI 岡敬純 (39): 1 December 1918 - ??? (1918.12.3.Frm15)
LT / LT KAWANO Shizuo KAWANO Shizuo 河野静雄 (39): 1 December 1918 - ??? (1918.12.3.Frm15)

2nd Submersible Boat Division
Established on 4 April 1906.
Renamed into 2nd Submarine Division on 1 April 1919.
Skippers
LT / LT OTAWARA Toru 太田原達 (26): 4 April 1906 - 2 July 1908
LT / LCDR OTAWARA Toru 太田原達 (26): 22 July 1908 - 17 April 1909
LT / LT SHIGEOKA Nobujiro 重岡信治郎 (30): 17 April 1907 - 1 December 1911 (1911.12.2.Frm15)
LCDR / LCDR TOJO Meiji 東條明次 (21): 17 April 1909 - 1 December 1909
LT / LCDR SHIGEOKA Nobujiro 重岡信治郎 (30): 22 May 1912 - 25 December 1913
LT / LCDR MASHIKO Rokuya 益子六弥 (30): 1 December 1911 - 30 July 1914 (1911.12.2.Frm15)
LT / LT ITO Teiichi 伊藤貞一 (34): ??? - 1 December 1913 (1913.12.2.Frm11)
LT / LT NOBETA Shigeoki 野辺田重興 (32): 1 December 1913 - ??? (1913.12.2.Frm10)
LT / LCDR KAWAMURA Shigemoto 河村重幹 (33): 1 December 1914 - 1 December 1917
LT / LT MOGAMI Shuji 最上修児 (37): 1 December 1916 - ??? (1916.12.2.Frm15)
LT / LT KUMAOKA Yuzuru 熊岡譲 (36): ??? - 1 December 1916 (1916.12.2.Frm15)
LT / LT OWADA Yoshinosuke 大和田芳之介 (35): ??? - 1 December 1916 (1916.12.2.Frm15)
LT / LT YONEYAMA Jungo 米山順吾 (33): 1 December 1916 - ??? (1916.12.2.Frm14)
LT / LT KAWANO Michinori 河野通徳 (32): ??? - 1 December 1916 (1916.12.2.Frm13)
LT / LT YOKOYAMA Sugao 横山管雄 (36): 1 December 1916 - 1 December 1917 (1916.12.2.Frm15 / 1917.12.3.Frm17)
LT / LT ARIMOTO Akira 有本明 (37): ??? - 1 December 1917 (1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT KASUGA Atsushi 春日篤 (37): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT HARA Tatsusaku 原龍朔 (39): 1 December 1917 - 2 November 1918 (1917.12.3.Frm19)
LT / LT SUKIGARA Tamazo 鋤柄玉造 (37): 1 December 1917 - ???

3rd Submersible Boat Division
Established on 23 December 1908.
Deactivated on 17 April 1909.
Skippers
LCDR / LCDR TOJO Meiji 東條明次 (21): 23 December 1908 - 17 April 1909
LT / LT KUMAOKA Yuzuru 熊岡譲 (36): 1 December 1916 - ??? (1916.12.2.Frm15)
LT / LT KANBAYASHI Kiyoshi 上林潔 (34): ??? - 1 December 1916 (1916.12.2.Frm14)
??? / LT TABUSE Akira 田伏亮 (34): ??? - 1 December 1917 (1917.12.3.Frm19)
LT / LT KAWANO Michinori 河野通徳 (32): 1 December 1916 - ??? (1916.12.2.Frm13)
LT / LT OWADA Yoshinosuke 大和田芳之介 (35): 1 December 1916 - 1 December 1917 (1916.12.2.Frm15 / 1917.12.3.Frm17)
LT / LT KUMMAZAWA Masuo 熊沢舛蔵 (37): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT MIYAZAKI Taira 宮崎平 (37): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT YAMANAKA Kojiro 山中孝次郎 (37): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm18)

4th Submersible Boat Division
Established on 1 December 1916
Renamed into 13th Submersible Division on 2 November 1918.
Skippers
LT / LT KANBAYASHI Kiyoshi 上林潔 (34): 1 December 1916 - ??? (1916.12.2.Frm14)
LT / ??? TABUSE Akira 田伏亮 (34): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm19)
LCDR / LCDR KAWAMURA Shigemoto 河村重幹 (33): 1 December 1917 - 2 November 1908
LT / LT OWADA Yoshinosuke 大和田芳之介 (35): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm17)
LT / LT YOKOYAMA Sugao 横山管雄 (36): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm17)
LT / LT ARIMOTO Akira 有本明 (37): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT TAKASU Sanjiro 高須三二郎 (37): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm18)
LT / LT WATANABE Tokushiro 渡部徳四郎 (37): 1 December 1917 - ??? (1917.12.3.Frm18)

11th Submersible Boat Division
Established in 1 ????.
Deactivated on 1 December 1918.
Skippers
LT / LT FUKUDA Ryozo 福田良三 (38): ??? - 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT TAKATSUKA Seigo 高塚省吾 (38): ??? - 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)

12th Submersible Boat Division
Renamed from 3rd Submersible Division on 2 November 1918.
Reorganized into 12th Submarine Division (1st Gen.) on 1 April 1919.
Skippers
LT / LT YAMANAKA Kojiro 山中孝次郎 (37): ??? - 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT MIYAZAKI Taira 宮崎平 (37): ??? - 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT SUKIGARA Tamazo 鋤柄玉造 (37): ??? - 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT FUKUDA Ryozo 福田良三 (38): 1 December 1918 - 1 April 1919 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT TAKATSUKA Seigo 高塚省吾 (38): 1 December 1918 - 1 April 1919 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT MINOWA Chugo 蓑輪中五 (38): 1 December 1918 - 1 April 1919 (1918.12.3.Frm15)
LT / LT MIWA Shigeyoshi 三輪茂義 (39): 1 December 1918 - 1 April 1919 (1918.12.3.Frm15)

13th Submersible Boat Division
Renamed from 4th Submersible Division on 2 November 1918
Deactivated on 1 April 1919.
Skippers
LCDR / LCDR KAWAMURA Shigemoto 河村重幹 (33): ???- 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT ISHIBASHI Toshinari 石橋敏成 (36): ??? - 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm12)
(ADD) LT / LT KAWAMURA Shigemoto 河村文平 (37): ??? - 1 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT KAWAMURA Shigemoto 河村文平 (37): 1 December 1918 - ??? (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT SUKIGARA Tamazo 鋤柄玉造 (37): 1 December 1918 - 13 December 1918 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT OZAKI Atsuro 尾崎篤郎 (37): 1 December 1918 - ??? (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT OKA TAKAZUMI 岡敬純 (39): ??? - 1 April 1919
LT / LT KASUGA Atsushi 春日篤 (37): 13 December 1918 - 1 April 1919 (1918.12.3.Frm13)
LT / LT TAKASU Sanjiro 高須三二郎 (37): ??? - 1 April 1919
LT / LT WATANABE Tokushiro 渡部徳四郎 (37): ??? - 1 April 1919


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Re: CO's, IJN Sub. Div 1

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Post by Steve E » 08 Oct 2019, 13:53

Hallo fontessa-san.
Domo arigato gozaimasu for the info.
Do you know which skipper commanded which submersible ?
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Post by fontessa » 08 Oct 2019, 15:41

Hello Steve,
Steve E wrote: ↑
08 Oct 2019, 13:53
 Do you know which skipper commanded which submersible ?
There is no record of the Taisho era (1913-1919). I have found a record of the Meiji era (1905).
viewtopic.php?f=65&t=230794&p=2209245&h ... e#p2209016
Unfortunately, there is no record of the appointment or dismissal of the Skippers.

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Post by Steve E » 09 Oct 2019, 14:53

Hi fontessa-san.
Thank you for your help. It is very much appreciated.
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