IJA Division names

[Herve75]

Hi everyone.

I'm new here and currently modding for HOI3 Blackice Group.
I'm looking for some correct designations/transcriptions of Japanese Divisions in "romanji" for an OOB rework. Fact is I can't read Japanese and I found many various maner to design these divisions with latin-Alphabet.
Exemples: for a standard infantry division - 1st Infantry Division - I can find:

- wikipedia
Dai-ichi Shidan (Dai-1 Shidan)
this division has the call sign "Jade" (Jade Division - Gyoku-heidan)

- current designation in Blackice for HOI3 is
"Hohei Dai 1 'Jade' Shidan" were "Hohei" means "Infantry".

- designation in HOI4 is
"1 'Jade' Hohei Shidan"

I would like to make the more complete and accurate designation.
Thanks for any reply!

Herve75

[Akira Takizawa]

"Hohei Shidan" is wrong. It is only Shidan as stated in Wiki. Wiki is correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Divis ... nese_Army)

Taki

[Herve75]

Tanks Taki,

So proper naming for this division should be "1 'Jade' Shidan" or "Dai-1 'Jade' Shidan" or something else?

Herve75

[Akira Takizawa]

It should be Dai-ichi Shidan. Jade (Gyoku) is code sign. It is not included in proper name.

Taki

[Herve75]

Once again, thanks for your answer.

Now my issue is that for game purpose, that kind of name won't be easy to read/identify for non-japanese speakers.
Maybe I'll go on something like "Dai-ichi Shidan (1st Division 'Jade')"...


Herve75

[BobTheBarbarian]

Once again, thanks for your answer.

Now my issue is that for game purpose, that kind of name won't be easy to read/identify for non-japanese speakers.
Maybe I'll go on something like "Dai-ichi Shidan (1st Division 'Jade')"...


Herve75

Or just call them by their numerical designations.

Also, in at least one case a division was referred to by the name of the city it was raised - the 2nd Division (Sendai Division).

EDIT: I'm vaguely familiar with HOI3 - one of the weaknesses of that game is that divisions are way too small and their layout is ahistorical. Plus armies have no sense of "division slice:" not just the division's own personnel but also corps, army-level, and rear-area troops behind them. An American "division-slice," for example, was about 35,000 to 50,000 men.