A confirmed "Credit" for IJN MiYake 1943?

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A confirmed "Credit" for IJN MiYake 1943?

Post by COmentator » 21 Jan 2024 14:51

USS Caplien submarine Missing since 2 December 1943

On COmbined fleet website came across account of IJN Destroyer escort MIYAKE:
28 December 1943:
On the afternoon, MIYAKE´s sonar finally catches an enemy sub. MIYAKE make up full speed and closes range. Depth charges are made ready, depth setting 60 meters. When range has closed to 300 meters several depth charges are fired on either side. Heavy explosions throw up high water columns. After a while upcoming oil is seen covering a wide range on the surface and it is assumed that MIYAKE has positively sunk an enemy submarine.

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Re: A confirmed "Credit" for IJN MiYake 1943?

Post by Berend » 22 Jan 2024 00:18

USS Capelin patrolled in a different area then the Miyaki. The USS Capelin patrollled in the Molucca, Flores and Banda seas whereas the Miyake carries out an anti submarine sweep west-south-west of Takao. The submarine she is hunting likely is the USS Flying Fish which sank the IJN oiler Kyuei Maru in that area. The USS Flying Fish was not sunk. So if Miyake sank something it certainly wasn't the USS Flying Fish.

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Re: A confirmed "Credit" for IJN MiYake 1943?

Post by fontessa » 22 Jan 2024 01:57

COmentator wrote:
21 Jan 2024 14:51
USS Caplien submarine Missing since 2 December 1943

On COmbined fleet website came across account of IJN Destroyer escort MIYAKE:
28 December 1943:
On the afternoon, MIYAKE´s sonar finally catches an enemy sub. MIYAKE make up full speed and closes range. Depth charges are made ready, depth setting 60 meters. When range has closed to 300 meters several depth charges are fired on either side. Heavy explosions throw up high water columns. After a while upcoming oil is seen covering a wide range on the surface and it is assumed that MIYAKE has positively sunk an enemy submarine.
It is an exciting description. However, there is no record of Miyake sinking a submarine. According to Japanese WiKi, records of submarine sinking at the end of 1943 indicate that Wakataka carried out a depth charge attack on a submarine west of Halmahera Island, which may have sunk the American submarine Capelin...

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Re: A confirmed "Credit" for IJN MiYake 1943?

Post by COmentator » 22 Jan 2024 02:14

exact quote translated:
Japanese minelayer Wakataka
On 23 November 1943, she carried out a depth charge attack on a submarine west of Halmahera , which may have sunk the American submarine Capelin .https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8B%A5 ... %E8%89%A6)

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Re: A confirmed "Credit" for IJN MiYake 1943?

Post by COmentator » 22 Jan 2024 02:18

also
According to Japanese records [1] , one week after Capelin departed from Darwin, at around 9:00 a.m. on November 23rd, she and a surface reconnaissance aircraft of the 934th Naval Air Squadron were spotted at the mouth of Kau Bay on Halmahera Island. It is recorded that the construction ship Wakataka , which was on escort duty at the time, conducted an anti-submarine attack. This record was the only attack made in that area at the time. However, there was very little evidence of actual contact, and the Japanese military ultimately called off the attack . [Note 1] It is also known that there were numerous Japanese mine fields north of Celebes Island , which overlapped with Capelin's patrol area. Since records of anti-submarine attacks are lacking in conclusive evidence, some speculate that Capelin was sunk by a mine. In any case, Capelin, along with her brave crew, disappeared without a trace, but on the American side she was recorded as a ship lost for unknown reasons.
In addition, there is an American record [3] that on November 23rd, when there was a Japanese anti-submarine attack, Capelin sunk the Kiyama Maru (Tsurumaru steamship, 2,841 tons) near the area where the attack took place. However, it is unclear whether the sinking of Kiyama-maru was actually caused by Kapelin. Regarding this, Japanese records [1] state that Kiyama-maru sank at around 16:30 on November 23rd. It is said that the ship was sunk by an air attack by six four-engine planes.

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