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Post by Windward » 28 Aug 2003, 18:41

Yoshiko(second from left) and Toyama Mitsuru(second from right), leader of Kokuruokai (Black Dragon Society).
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Yoshiko's marriage, photo took in Yamato Hotel, Port Arthur, Nov 1927. Her age 20, and his age 24. Her husband Ganjurzabuh was the second son of a Mongol noble general, and he was graduated from a Japanese military school.
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Post by Windward » 28 Aug 2003, 18:47

Another photo of male dressed Yoshiko, in Manchurian Air Force uniform.
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Post by Windward » 28 Aug 2003, 18:53

Two photos in addition. Premier Zhang Jing Hui (1872 - 1959), died in communist prison for heart disease. The ohter photo was took in 1940, on Pu Yi's visiting to Japan, on board Japanese battleship Hiei.
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Post by Balrog » 29 Aug 2003, 03:16

did the princess ever actually bomb shanghai?

was it the nationalists or the reds who executed her?

was she ever involved in a sexual relationship with the manchukuo empress?

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Post by Windward » 29 Aug 2003, 05:16

joel pacheco wrote:did the princess ever actually bomb shanghai?

was it the nationalists or the reds who executed her?

was she ever involved in a sexual relationship with the manchukuo empress?
She was sentenced to death in Oct 1947, and the KMT (nationalist) government executed her in Pekin, on March 25 1948. But some people said the woman executed was a vicarious stand-in. She never bombed Shanghai and never had sex relationship with empress Wan Rong. It's too difficult. The Imperial Palace was guarded by Japanese MPs, and she couldn't enter the palace as she want. But she had received lots of money from mr. Nakajima, the famous Japanese airplane producer.

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Post by Balrog » 30 Aug 2003, 00:51

what can anyone tell me about pu yi's second wife?

does anyone have a photo of her?

when did she leave the emperor and what was the reason?

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Post by Windward » 30 Aug 2003, 14:02

joel pacheco wrote:what can anyone tell me about pu yi's second wife?
does anyone have a photo of her?
when did she leave the emperor and what was the reason?
Wen Xiu? She was a concubine. The "concubine" here was not a woman who cohabits with a man, but a woman contracted to a man as a secondary wife, often having few legal rights and low social status. The formal wife could beat up concubines if she want. So few concubines feel happy for their marriage. Wen Xiu divorced from Pu Yi in 1931, 8 years after the marriage. She was only 14 when she married to Pu Yi, and Pu Yi was an undersexed man, lacking manifestation of sex with female. Low status and lack of love may be the two most important reason.

Here's photo of Wen Xiu, aged 14. Not very beautiful, right?
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Post by Gott » 30 Aug 2003, 15:11

Back in early 90's there was a movie made in HK about Yoshiko Kawashima. The cast was quite impressive. I have never watched it, so I'm not sure if the plot was fabricated.

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Post by Balrog » 30 Aug 2003, 16:22

what role did princess yoshiko play in manchukuo? was she ever part of the imperial court? didn't she have a sexual relationship with a high ranking japanese officer? was she having a sexual relationship with mr. nakajima?
what kind of airplane did she fly?

what made her so popular/famous? i'm wondering what she did to attract so much attention to get executed. lots of people in china collaborated with the japanese, including the nobility. why was she executed?

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Post by Windward » 02 Sep 2003, 16:17

hey joel too much questions about sex! :D

i bought a good book today, "russian emigration at harbin, a brief history". ISBN7-207-04177-2. some pictures and interesting information in it. the russian served in manchurian army, "Asano butai (Asano unit)", founded in 1937, consists 5 companies, about 700 people. Asano was a japanese military advisor. they wear manchurian uniform, but lead by japanese intelligence agency in harbin. they acted as spies and pretend soviet soldiers, cross the border to collect informations. the members were former white russian soldiers and officers, members of russian fascist party and some young immigrants. in 1943 it changed into an open unit, recruited volunteers, not secret then. the leaders and officers of akano butai were arrested and executed by the invade soviet army after 1945.

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Post by Balrog » 02 Sep 2003, 16:59

too many questions about sex? :lol: that is the first time i've ever had some accuse me of that!

no, but seriously, this princess seemed to use her physical beauty and sex to get what she wanted. i've been doing some reading and when she is mentioned(briefly), it always includes some mention about her using her beauty and charm to get things. that is why i asked.

please scan some of the photos from your white russian book.

also, could you post a biography of the commandeers of the harbin unit, along with a photo of a white russian in manchukuo uniform?

last question for now. did manchukuo ever get recognition from the league of nations? i didn't think they did, but i'm not sure. one book i'm reading mentions a diplomatic delegation from the league interviewing pu yi, but i haven't found ahy responses.

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Post by Windward » 03 Sep 2003, 06:03

hey joel i'm just kidding. yes yoshiko use her sexual charm to get some benefits. she was raped by her japanese foster father when she was 15, then she became hypersexual.

i'll scan some pictures later. unfortunately there's no photo of white russian in manchutian uniform. most of them are photos of ordinary immigrants, and russian buildings in harbin.

manchukuo was never recognised by the league of nations, and that's why japan quit the league. the diplomatic delegation was sent by the league, for china lodged a complaint in the league of nations, so the league must sent a delegation.

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Post by Balrog » 03 Sep 2003, 16:48

raped? the version i've read is that she seduced her foster father and his son. the princess even bragged about it to her friends.

who was mr. nakajima exactly? which airplane company did he control?

does anyone have any photos of the manchukuo airforce or its pilots?

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Post by Balrog » 05 Sep 2003, 02:59

windward, you showed a color photo of pu yi's old palace. what is its function today? is it a museum?

are there any museums in china today which highlight the manchukuo puppet state?

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