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I think Giove was a Regia Marina cisterna. Same type as Nettuno
In 1942 Lucania was sunk in an humanitarian mission, as compensation the British let Lavoro get back to Italy
In 1942 Lucania was sunk in an humanitarian mission, as compensation the British let Lavoro get back to Italy
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That's right - indeed, I wrote "(note: owned by the Navy, managed by Cooperativa Garibaldi of Genoa)"I think Giove was a Regia Marina cisterna. Same type as Nettuno
Thanks, I did not know about Lavoro returning to Italy during the war.In 1942 Lucania was sunk in an humanitarian mission, as compensation the British let Lavoro get back to Italy
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My mistake then i thought that there were 2 Giove. Thanks.
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Only one Giove - whereas there was a case of homonimy that has caused some confusion, the two Prometeos (a civilian tanker that was scuttled in East Africa and a naval oiler that survived the war).My mistake then i thought that there were 2 Giove.
In case you did not know; Cooperativa Garibaldi, based in Genoa, was originally founded in 1918 by Giuseppe Giulietti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_ ... _unionist)), a merchant captain and trade unionist, as a shipping company in the form of a workers cooperative. During the 1920s, however, due to hostility from private ship-owners (that had links with the regime) and growing conflict between Giulietti and the Fascist regime, the former fell out of grace and Cooperativa Garibaldi was put, it seems, under partial (or total) State control. In peacetime, the Regia Marina entrusted part of its transports and tankers (such as Enrichetta, Bronte, Tripoli, Ticino, Giove, Brennero etc.) to the Cooperativa Garibaldi, so that, while not being needed for Navy service, they could be used as merchant ships (with Merchant Navy crews) to earn some money. Even in wartime some of them continued to be managed by Cooperativa Garibaldi and manned by (mostly) civilian crews; in fact some of them that were sunk (Enrichetta, Tripoli, Bronte, Ticino, etc.) are listed, for this reason, in “Navi mercantili perdute” rather than “Navi militari perdute”).
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Thanks Lorenzo.
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very useful information, thanks!Jon G. wrote:To add some more data to this thread, here are two tables. First one is an inventory of the world tanker fleet by year, listing ships over 2,000 registered with Lloyd's as of Jan 1 each year. Note that the below table manifestly does not give us the full picture of how many tankers a given country had on hand - fluctuations inside a year (eg. 1942) aren't accounted for with an annual list, eg. some Italian tankers were impounded when Italy entered the war and were thus of no use to the Italian war effort, and as noted, the list does not take small tankers into account.
There was not room for the Jan 1st and Sept 1 1945 tanker fleets in my transcribed table.Code: Select all
World Tanker Fleet 1940-1944, 2,000+ GRT ships only, registered as of January 1st. 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 Number Tons Number Tons Number Tons Number Tons Number Tons Japan 57 574,827 59 532,947 61 544,860 62 548,787 59 503,753 Germany 33 262,981 38 326,485 40 353,276 48 414,212 55 461,742 Italy 81 432,491 80 429,094 45 242,353 34 171,383 30 171,383* US 383 2,824,160 379 2,824,128 389 2,931,193 366 2,901,748 556 4,784,954 UK 450 3,234,852 417 2,975,688 411 2,930,844 355 2,534,899 353 2,521,751 Norway 262 2,073,771 255 2,055,254 231 1,882,687 186 1,523,062 166 1,370,174 NL 107 544,462 101 514,512 97 482,956 80 389,442 77 374,090 Panama 64 555,734 71 588,323 77 630,426 72 551,694 76 539,783 France 56 385,117 46 328,980 43 318,497 16 305,158 29 209,430 USSR 17 113,050 17 113,050 16 106,493 16 106,126 24 154,563 Sweden 21 183,206 24 205,187 28 244,061 32 282,411 32 279,528 Others 106 555,522 102 517,100 112 575,127 96 500,826 99 518,409 * looks like a typo
The next list is a bit more dodgy. It's a list of world refining capacity as of Dec 1 1940. Some of the numbers look a little suspicious to me - why is eg. Austria included with its own entry, but Romania is not listed? Japan is alas not on the list, and finally, I suspect that refinery capacity would fluctuate more from year to year than the size of a given country's tanker fleet would. Also, note that the total comes out as 73% only.
Both tables transcribed from Robert Goralski & Russell W. Freeburg Oil & War. How the Deadly Struggle for Fuel in WWII Meant Victory or Defeat, pp338 and 340-341Code: Select all
World Refining Capacity, Dec. 1940 Axis/Axis-controlled bbl/day % world total Austria 10,000 0.1 Denmark 12,220 0.2 France 151,600 2.0 Germany 68,800 0.9 Italy 57,300 0.7 Netherlands 15,000 0.2 Norway 1,200 - Allied Canada 221,900 2.9 India 37,000 0.5 Middle East 426,500 5.5 UK 144,100 3.0 West Indies 588,500 1.9 Neutral Latin America 321,900 3.2 US 4,461,100 58.1 USSR 899,700 11.7
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An https://goo.gl/hjc7go tanker, otherwise called an oil tanker, is a ship intended for the mass transport of oil or its items. There are two fundamental kinds of oil tankers: rough tankers and item tankers. Rough tankers move huge amounts of grungy unrefined petroleum from its purpose of extraction to refineries. For instance, moving unrefined petroleum from oil wells in Nigeria to the refineries on the bank of the United States. Item tankers, for the most part significantly littler, are intended to move refined items from refineries to focuses close devouring markets. For instance, moving fuel from refineries in Europe to shopper showcases in Nigeria and other West African countries
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Good afternoon Laracraft,
Let me just throw in another name related to the smaller vessels called "item tankers".
A typical petroleum trade article will frequently reference ULCCs (Ultra Large Crude Carriers), VLCCs (Very Large Crude Carriers [Exxon Valdez was a VLCC]) and:
large "OBOs" - Ore - Bulk - Oil vessels.
~ Bob
eastern Virginia, USA
Let me just throw in another name related to the smaller vessels called "item tankers".
A typical petroleum trade article will frequently reference ULCCs (Ultra Large Crude Carriers), VLCCs (Very Large Crude Carriers [Exxon Valdez was a VLCC]) and:
large "OBOs" - Ore - Bulk - Oil vessels.
~ Bob
eastern Virginia, USA
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Hello,
I wonder whether you would know where the Prometeo tanker owned by Regia Marina was based on the time of Italian Armistice (8/9/1943).
Thank you,
Greg