German Steel Production

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Re: German Steel Production

Post by takata_1940 » 30 Apr 2010 17:15

Andy H wrote: You posted the following:-
Here is a first table showing the total German controlled Steel output from 1938 to 1944:
. 1938: 23,329
. 1939: 23,733
. 1940: 21,540
. 1941: 31,822
. 1942: 32,128
. 1943: 34,644
. 1944: 28,499
(x 1,000 metric tons; source: USSBS Report "The Effects of Strategic Bombing on the German War Economy".)
I found this whilst looking into German production figures regarding Allied bombing thread etc etc
. 1939: 23,733
. 1940: 21,540
. 1941: 28,233
. 1942: 28,744
. 1943: 30,603
. 1944: 25,853
(x 1,000 metric tons; source: Deutches Institut fur Wirtschafsforschung, Die deutsche Industrie im Kriege 1939-45 by Duncker und Humblot, Berlin 1954 and reproduced in War, Economy & Society 1939-45 by the historian Alan S Milward, published by University of California Press 1979

These differences are quite marked at
1941: 3,589
1942: 3,384
1943: 4,041
1944: 2,646
respectively, and in total equalling 13,660 x 1,000 metric tons
Are your figures a more upto date than that of Milwards reproduction of the earlier German work?
The origin of both dataset seems to be the same but I can't check Duncker und Humblot. It looks like their dataset do add Czechoslovakia Protectorate with Altreich, Upper Silesia and Austria while my total do not (as it is part of occupied countries like Polish General Government, Belgium, Northern France, Meurthe & Moselle district, and Netherlands - Note: all French districts are not controlled: Central & Southern France production - Vichy zone - is not included into those tables at all).

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Re: German Steel Production

Post by takata_1940 » 30 Apr 2010 18:36

Andy,
I can confirm that Milward's sources* and the data I posted are identical.
From the total you listed, here are the details behind the numbers:

1939: 23,733 (Milward)
. Altreich: 22,370
. Austria: 839
. Upper Silesia: 524
total: 23,733

1940: 21,540 (Milward)
. Altreich: 18,629
. Austria: 766
. Upper Silesia: 2,145
total: 21,540

1941: 28,233 (Milward)
. Altreich: 20,326
. Austria: 804
. Upper Silesia: 2,341
. Protectorate (Cz): 1,655
. Luxemburg: 1,249
. Lorraine: 1,860
total: 28,235

1942: 28,744 (Milward)
. Altreich: 19,959
. Austria: 897
. Upper Silesia: 2,420
. Protectorate (Cz): 1,649
. Luxemburg: 1,569
. Lorraine: 2,250
total: 28,744

1943: 30,603 (Milward)
. Altreich: 20,698
. Austria: 1,055
. Upper Silesia: 2,821
. Protectorate (Cz): 1,733
. Luxemburg: 1,822
. Lorraine: 2,475
total: 30,603

1944: 25,853 (Milward)
. Altreich: 17,689
. Austria: 1,007
. Upper Silesia: 2,878
. Protectorate (Cz): 1,676
. Luxemburg: 1,103
. Lorraine: 1,498
total: 25,851

(*Deutches Institut fur Wirtschafsforschung, Die deutsche Industrie im Kriege 1939-45 by Duncker und Humblot, Berlin 1954 and reproduced in War, Economy & Society 1939-45 by the historian Alan S Milward, published by University of California Press 1979.)

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Re: German Steel Production

Post by Andy H » 30 Apr 2010 19:32

Thanks Olivier for taking the time to explain the component of Milwards totals

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Re: German Steel Production

Post by takata_1940 » 30 Apr 2010 20:43

Andy H wrote:Thanks Olivier for taking the time to explain the component of Milwards totals
You are welcome.
:)

In order to complete the above dataset, other productions from occupied countries were:
1941: 3,587
. France (North-East): 1,509
. Belgium, Netherlands: 1,859
. General Gov. (Poland): 219

1942: 3,384
. France (North-East): 1,561
. Belgium, Netherlands: 1,585
. General Gov. (Poland): 238

1943: 4,041
. France (North-East): 1,915
. Belgium, Netherlands: 1,865
. General Gov. (Poland): 261

1944: 2,648
. France (North-East): 1,887*
. Belgium, Netherlands: 614
. General Gov. (Poland): 147

(*include 1,090,000 tons of crude steel from Central/Southern France and Northern Italy during 1st-3rd quarterly 1944) - All data are in thousands metric tons.

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Re: German Steel Production

Post by SimonvandeVen » 14 Jan 2023 15:01

takata_1940 wrote:
05 Apr 2010 22:00
(to JonG: it is not all... but thank you!)
From here, it is possible to make the real part of the controlled territories steel output.
Other sources not included into the German "domestic" production were:
. Belgium;
. Northern France, Meurthe et Moselle;
. Protectorate (Bohemia-Moravia);
. Netherlands;
. Poland;
At one point, during the 1st quarterly 1944, production from Central France and Northern Italy were also added to the figure, but there is no mention of Norway anywhere:
Here is the table, calculated in yearly figure (x 4) output per quarterly, for comparison it is useful:
GSteel5b.jpg
and the graphic corresponding:
GSteel5.jpg

Hi, I was wondering where you got these quarterly amounts? I need them for my bachelor thesis, but need a reference/source in order to be able to use them.

Let me know!

Simon

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