Need industrial strength breakdown by country

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Re: Need industrial strength breakdown by country

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Post by bf109 emil » 17 Aug 2010, 07:28

German steel production for 1938 was 20.7 million tons source . by Paul Kennedy "The rise and fall of great power" from pp.709

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1937 World Strategic Raw Materials and Foodstuff Productionhttp://orbat.com/site/sturmvogel/resources.html
which shows German greater reich was lower in almost every commodity then the British Empire


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Re: Need industrial strength breakdown by country

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Post by Guaporense » 29 Aug 2010, 04:30

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Guaporense wrote: French armaments production was smaller than Germany's between 1914-1918 but it is true that it wasn't 30% of Germany's production. But Germany's economy grew more than France and UK between 1918 and 1938.
Was Germany's greater economic growth enough to compensate that Germany in 1937 was smaller than Germany of 1913 whilst France was bigger?
Second to many estimates, yes.
And France also imported a loot of raw materials in WW1, like steel from the US, while Germany had to make everything herself.
Steel is not a raw material. Germany also depended upon importing raw materials.
What I meant was that the degree of imports in terms of half finished goods helped France during WW1 in a way that Germany could never match, since France was importing goods from the US in great quantities and Germany didn't have an US to provide goods.
In terms of steel production, Germany produced 3 times the amount of steel France produced in the 1937-1939 period, for example. With fits nicely with the estimates that Germany's industrial capacity were 3-3.5 times France's.
And Germany's steel production depended on imported iron ore. So what's the difference between France importing steel and Germany importing iron ore?
Well, in principle, since steel was only responsible for 3% of total manufacturing production in Germany in 1936 (in terms of sales), it is conceivable that a country with 3 times the steel production of another in 1937 could have the same degree of industrial production.

However, that is not likely. As steel production was strongly correlated with industrial production during the first half of the 20th century.
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Post by Guaporense » 29 Aug 2010, 04:37

bf109 emil wrote:German steel production for 1938 was 20.7 million tons source . by Paul Kennedy "The rise and fall of great power" from pp.709
Well, a better source like Fritz, Martin. German Steel and Swedish Iron Ore 1939-1945; Göteborg, 1974 says that German production was 22.7 million tons. The missing 2 must be a typo.
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Post by bf109 emil » 29 Aug 2010, 15:57

Guaporense wrote:
bf109 emil wrote:German steel production for 1938 was 20.7 million tons source . by Paul Kennedy "The rise and fall of great power" from pp.709
Well, a better source like Fritz, Martin. German Steel and Swedish Iron Ore 1939-1945; Göteborg, 1974 says that German production was 22.7 million tons. The missing 2 must be a typo.
yes as it seemed to be added to your works as a better source by Kennedy using harrisons figures due show. as in 1937 German had source for 4.1 % of iron ore in the world, while UK had 4.4% and her commonwealth had 5.9% clearly a dominate advantage in steel making ability over germany's production of 20.7 million tons as shown in 1938

but then again as economists are shown and know to fudge books and numbers, perhaps your wish to try and paint Germany as somehow being more apt, superior and able have help lean your thinking from that of an economist relating data to one of an enthusiast willing to post, source and list data in an attempt to appear correct or help tout Germany's might, yet end up with being or looking silly :wink:

1937 data or world resources AGAIN noting how Britain and her commonwealth hold a vastly superior majority in logistics and resources over the then NAZI REGIMEhttp://www.sturmvogel.orbat.com/resources.html

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Post by Guaporense » 01 Sep 2010, 00:31

That's the supply of raw material. Of course, the British empire had more raw materials. But the Nazi regime had greater human and physical capital.
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Post by bf109 emil » 01 Sep 2010, 00:53

Guaporense wrote:That's the supply of raw material. Of course, the British empire had more raw materials. But the Nazi regime had greater human and physical capital.
Unsure of what physical capital means unless you mean slave labor...

also the Reich of Germany came no where close to population totals of the British Empire in terms of population...

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