M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Hello All
Thanks to Sturm78 a 8.8 cm S.K.C/32 in Doppl. L.C/32 ( Naval Weapons of W.W.2 from J.Campbell )
in the M.Fl.B. Holtenau in Kiel M.Fl.A. 3./271 , later rearmed with 12.8 cm Flak 40 M .
Regards Jos
Thanks to Sturm78 a 8.8 cm S.K.C/32 in Doppl. L.C/32 ( Naval Weapons of W.W.2 from J.Campbell )
in the M.Fl.B. Holtenau in Kiel M.Fl.A. 3./271 , later rearmed with 12.8 cm Flak 40 M .
Regards Jos
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Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Hello
Here the photo from the above mentioned book. It's a blurry picture but
you can see the guns hanging on both sides of the central block
Regards Jos
Here the photo from the above mentioned book. It's a blurry picture but
you can see the guns hanging on both sides of the central block
Regards Jos
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Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Hello
According to some orginal German information this gun should be the 8.8 cm
S.K.C/31 in Dopp.L. C/31and not 8.8 cm S.K.C/32 in Dopp.L. C/32 ????
Regards Jos
According to some orginal German information this gun should be the 8.8 cm
S.K.C/31 in Dopp.L. C/31and not 8.8 cm S.K.C/32 in Dopp.L. C/32 ????
Regards Jos
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Hello All
A other option could be that the guns on both photo's could be th 8.8 cm S.K. C/25 in Dopp.L.
placed on the Königberg class cruisers but they were replaced by the single 8.8 cm S.K.L/45 ??
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_88mm-75_skc25.htm
Regards Jos
A other option could be that the guns on both photo's could be th 8.8 cm S.K. C/25 in Dopp.L.
placed on the Königberg class cruisers but they were replaced by the single 8.8 cm S.K.L/45 ??
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_88mm-75_skc25.htm
Regards Jos
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Hello Jos ,
Both the phots from M.Fl.B. Holtenau + your scan
from Campell page 250 shows :
8,8 cn S.K.C/35 in 8,8 cm Dopp. L.C/35
Campell page 250 have a wrong caption !
The 8,8 cm S.K.C/35 were only used on Köln i few
months in 1933 - 1934 .
Recognition :
- without shield
- widely spaced gun barrels
- heavy breech block / counterweights
- backside of the breech block is curved
For tectical data see :
M.J. Whitley :
German Cruises of World War Two
page 172 with about 30 x parameters
The photo from navweapons is correct
regards
ludvig
Both the phots from M.Fl.B. Holtenau + your scan
from Campell page 250 shows :
8,8 cn S.K.C/35 in 8,8 cm Dopp. L.C/35
Campell page 250 have a wrong caption !
The 8,8 cm S.K.C/35 were only used on Köln i few
months in 1933 - 1934 .
Recognition :
- without shield
- widely spaced gun barrels
- heavy breech block / counterweights
- backside of the breech block is curved
For tectical data see :
M.J. Whitley :
German Cruises of World War Two
page 172 with about 30 x parameters
The photo from navweapons is correct
regards
ludvig
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Hi all,
Ludvig, you want to say 8.8cm SK C/25 L75 guns in Dopp LC/25 mounts, no??
Apparently these guns were not very satisfactory, and were replaced by 8.8cm Flak L45 and later by 8.8cm SK C/31 L78 guns in Dpp LC/31 or 8.8cm SK C/32 L76 guns on Dopp. LC/32. I'm not sure yet which of these last two guns and mounts were used on these light cruisers during the war.
Regards Sturm78
Ludvig, you want to say 8.8cm SK C/25 L75 guns in Dopp LC/25 mounts, no??
Apparently these guns were not very satisfactory, and were replaced by 8.8cm Flak L45 and later by 8.8cm SK C/31 L78 guns in Dpp LC/31 or 8.8cm SK C/32 L76 guns on Dopp. LC/32. I'm not sure yet which of these last two guns and mounts were used on these light cruisers during the war.
Regards Sturm78
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Hi ,
* typing error , the two 8,8 cm SKC/25 in Dopp
LC/25 mounts was tested in Köln in 1930 - 31 .
Not as J wrote ( 1933 - 34 ).
* M.Fl.B Holtenau , 4. batterie of Marine - Flak -
Abeteilung 221 used 2 x 8,8 cm Doppellafette ,untill
February 1944 when is was refitted with 4 x 12,8 cm.
Source Klaus Hupp : Bei der Marineflak ,
zur Verteidigung der Stadt und Festung Kiel im
2. Weltkrieg page 18 .
Regards
ludvig
* typing error , the two 8,8 cm SKC/25 in Dopp
LC/25 mounts was tested in Köln in 1930 - 31 .
Not as J wrote ( 1933 - 34 ).
* M.Fl.B Holtenau , 4. batterie of Marine - Flak -
Abeteilung 221 used 2 x 8,8 cm Doppellafette ,untill
February 1944 when is was refitted with 4 x 12,8 cm.
Source Klaus Hupp : Bei der Marineflak ,
zur Verteidigung der Stadt und Festung Kiel im
2. Weltkrieg page 18 .
Regards
ludvig
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Here a other photo of the 8,8 cm S.K.C/25 in Dopp. L.C/25 from Ebay.de
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
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Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
A very nice image of these rare guns!! Thanks for sharing, Jopaerya.
Regards Sturm78
Regards Sturm78
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
The same pixtures pops up again..for sale on ebay.
regards
stril
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stril
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Hello
On the cruiser Koln the same 8,8 cm S.K.C/25 in Dopp. L.C/25 gun .
Photo = Ebay.usa
Regards Jos
On the cruiser Koln the same 8,8 cm S.K.C/25 in Dopp. L.C/25 gun .
Photo = Ebay.usa
Regards Jos
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
Here a Ebay picture of the 8.8 cm Doppel flak before replacement on a K-Kreuzer .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
8.8 cm S.K. C/25 in Dopp L.C/25 in a bettung . ( Ebay )
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
Re: M.Fl.B. Holtenau ( Kiel )
This is the first time for me that see photo's of breeches and time-fuzes setter of these guns, Regards Jos