Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

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Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

Post by T. A. Gardner » 22 Feb 2021 22:23

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Any ideas on any of that? I can't say I've seen any of the stuff in the foreground before. Open images in new tab please.

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Re: Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

Post by Grzesio » 23 Feb 2021 09:45

The photos are said to be taken in Unterluess, also a Rheinmetall testing facility.
Well, there are two depth charges (one apparently rocket propelled minus its engine), a PC 500 RS engine, a PD 500 armour piercing bomb, a small size model of a Hs 293 C warhead, a couple of airdropped bombs and rocket bomb engines... Generally all these projectiles with long tails seem to be intended for testing water entry characteristics - they were to be launched from a barrel right into the water.

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Re: Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

Post by veeteetee » 23 Feb 2021 13:10

Opening an image in new tab results in "You must be logged-in to do that". Thank you, but no thank you.

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Re: Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

Post by T. A. Gardner » 23 Feb 2021 15:59

Thank you Grzesio.

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Re: Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

Post by Zünder » 23 Feb 2021 18:19

Is it possible to upload the pictures here ? I'd very much like to see them.

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Re: Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

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Re: Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

Post by wimve » 24 Feb 2021 13:53

hhhm, I copied the location from that forum:

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I hope these are the pictures mentioned.
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Re: Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

Post by Zünder » 24 Feb 2021 20:06

@Wimve: dank je, stukken beter zo.

I think Greszio is right, these are taken at Unterlüss.
There is a CIOS that describes some of these finds, "CIOS XXVII-35 Visit to Rheinmetall-Borsic A.G. Werk Unterluss", although i think many of these bombs remained unidentified in the report.
I agree with Greszio on the two depth charges, the PC 500 RS engine and the PD 500 missing it's tail.
I think the "Hs 293 C warhead" was experimental concrete piercing bomb used for testing, i'm sure i've seen a drawing, will sift through my archives and try to locate it.
I also see a Röchling concrete piercing shell, without front and back support ring and without it's sabot.
Judging by the size it's most likely a 34 cm Rö.Gr. 42 Be.

Great pictures, hopefully there are more and in higher resolution.

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Re: Photos of unknown rockets or rocket like-projectiles

Post by Grzesio » 25 Feb 2021 09:45

Just these two pictures have been circulating on the internet for some time, allegedly taken privately by an Allied soldier (British, as I remember correctly?).
Zünder wrote:
24 Feb 2021 20:06
I think the "Hs 293 C warhead" was experimental concrete piercing bomb used for testing, i'm sure i've seen a drawing, will sift through my archives and try to locate it.
I think, it clearly is a model (some 1:2 to 1:3 scale) of a longer variant of a Hs 293 C warhead, intended for Hs 293 C-2 to C-4. It just differs with a slightly shorter spike (some 40 mm difference in natural size), larger diameter and length of the bottleneck butt (what can by caused by the need of fixing the tail boom) and lack of the stabilizing collar. Otherwise, it fits perfectly as far as shape and proportions are concerned, including the Kopfring placement - see the comparison of the Hs 293 C-4 warhead and the photo of this projectile below. :)
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