Italian naval guns

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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by Sturm78 » 12 Feb 2024 22:08

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this gun ?

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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by ROLAND1369 » 15 Feb 2024 18:55

Looks to me to be a 100 MM OTO model 1937.

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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by Sturm78 » 15 Feb 2024 21:32

ROLAND1369
Looks to me to be a 100 MM OTO model 1937.
Ummhhh....I have in my computer files this other gun identified as the 100mm OTO Mod.1937....and clearly, it is a different gun.... :?

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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by shultz-he » 15 Feb 2024 23:25

Sturm78 wrote:
12 Feb 2024 22:08
Hi all,

Can somebody identify this gun ?

Image from Getty archive
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Hi Sturm, the gun in your post N. 46 is a 100/47 OTO '37 on mounting mod. '37.
While the gun in Your other photo N. 48 is a 100/47 OTO '31 on mounting mod. '35 .
See the drawings attached , from the book "Le armi delle navi Italiane"
100-47 OTO '37 on mounting mod. '37.JPG
100-47 OTO '31 on mounting mod. '31 and mod. '35.JPG
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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Feb 2024 15:40

Shultz wrote
Hi Sturm, the gun in your post N. 46 is a 100/47 OTO '37 on mounting mod. '37.
While the gun in Your other photo N. 48 is a 100/47 OTO '31 on mounting mod. '35 .
See the drawings attached , from the book "Le armi delle navi Italiane"
Thank you very much for your help, Shultz... :wink: I have corrected my files ....

Do you have any idea about the 120mm gun of the image posted on 20 Jan ??

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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by shultz-he » 16 Feb 2024 16:12

Sturm78 wrote:
16 Feb 2024 15:40

Do you have any idea about the 120mm gun of the image posted on 20 Jan ??

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Hi, it is a 120/50 Ans. Mod. 1940 .
It is a single gun planned to replace the 120/15 "star shell howitzer" on some of the "Soldati" class destroyers.
I also add a photograph from behind of the same gun and same ship, taken from the "Fondazione Ansaldo" website.
120-50 Ans. '40 027574.jpg
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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Feb 2024 15:44

Shultz wrote
Hi, it is a 120/50 Ans. Mod. 1940 .
It is a single gun planned to replace the 120/15 "star shell howitzer" on some of the "Soldati" class destroyers.
I also add a photograph from behind of the same gun and same ship, taken from the "Fondazione Ansaldo" website.
Thanks, again, for your help, Shultz ... :)

Here, another image from Ebay. 100mm submarine gun but, can somebody identify the exact model ?

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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by shultz-he » 18 Feb 2024 22:08

Sturm78 wrote:
17 Feb 2024 15:44
Shultz wrote
Hi, it is a 120/50 Ans. Mod. 1940 .

Here, another image from Ebay. 100mm submarine gun but, can somebody identify the exact model ?

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Hi, I didn't recognize it, so I downloaded the photograph and the title said: "Italian U-Boot, submarine, Flak, Kanone, Frankreich 1941".
So I searched through the photos of submarines at Betasom, the Italian base in Bordeaux, and found the match.
It is the Tazzoli submarine in Bordeaux in 1941, and the gun is a 120/45 OTO '31 (the rear gun of the two embarked) .
Compare the details of the bridge in the two photos, they match.
t Italienisches U-Boot,somergibile,Flak,Kanone,Frankreich 1941.jpg
120-45 OTO '31 su Tazzoli 1941.jpg
(this photo is from the net, I apologize but I don't remember the exact site)

I'm glad I solved the mystery, for a while I thought it was some special or unknown gun.

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Re: Italian naval guns

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Feb 2024 21:44

shultz wrote
Hi, I didn't recognize it, so I downloaded the photograph and the title said: "Italian U-Boot, submarine, Flak, Kanone, Frankreich 1941".
So I searched through the photos of submarines at Betasom, the Italian base in Bordeaux, and found the match.
It is the Tazzoli submarine in Bordeaux in 1941, and the gun is a 120/45 OTO '31 (the rear gun of the two embarked) .
Compare the details of the bridge in the two photos, they match.
Thank you very much for your help, shultz. I hadn't thought about the possibility of a 120mm gun...

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