15 mm M.G. M38 (t) ?

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 16 May 2006 15:50

Hi All

This gun looks to me a 15 mm M.G. M38 (t) ,
be I would like to hear other opinions .
Sorry the photo is a little blurry

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos

ducatim901 · Post by **ducatim901** » 16 May 2006 22:18

Could well be, the smaller Besa (english) MG has a bigger brother is see...........
Greetings Jack

Tony Williams · Post by **Tony Williams** » 17 May 2006 10:39

Yes, it looks like the big Besa (or ZB vz/60). See the photo below showing one on a strange spring-wheel mounting.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 17 May 2006 18:36

Thanks

For your answers on the gun , also
nice on the photo from Tony the 2
ammo magazine for the gun.

Regards Jos

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 31 May 2007 12:47

Hello All

This looks like a other one ?

Photo = Ebay.usa

Regards Jos

tom! · Post by **tom!** » 31 May 2007 14:57

Hi.

Tony Williams wrote:Yes, it looks like the big Besa (or ZB vz/60). See the photo below showing one on a strange spring-wheel mounting.

.....

This type of spring wheels were also tested by the japanese army for an air-transportable 37 mm at-gun and an air-transportable version of the famous type 92 70 mm battalion gun.

Are there any further infos on the picture you posted? I´m especially interested in the development history of these type of wheels/mounts.

Yours

tom! :wink:

Tony Williams · Post by **Tony Williams** » 31 May 2007 19:24

Sorry, I was given the photo many years ago, with no information about it.

Tony Williams
Homepage: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 09 Apr 2008 08:27

Hi

Here 2 other pictures of the mount and the gun , both from Ebay.de

Regards Jos

Alkali · Post by **Alkali** » 09 Apr 2008 23:32

Hi,

Nice pictures

Yes, then Czech gun 15 mm velkorážový kulomet vz. 38 (great-caliber machine gun vz. 38), factory sign ZB-60.

Produced in Československá Zbrojovka Brno (later later Waffenerzeugnisse der Waffenwerke Brünn A.G.) in period 1938-43.
production :
70 – for Iran (1938-1939)
477 – for Yugoslavia (1938-1940)
140 – for England (01-04.1939, plus licence)
200 – for Kriegsmarine (1940-1941)
250 – for Spain (11.1942 – 05.1943)

Curiosity, ZB-60 never was introduced to armament Czech army !!

On pictures ZB-60 from Czech museum Lešany.

Regards,
Alkali

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 28 Jun 2008 09:03

Hello All

Again a nice photo of this gun from Ebay.de

Regards Jos

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 03 Mar 2010 20:41

Hello

Here a 15 mm M38 (t) on a naval boat from Ebay.de

Regards Jos

bechelaren · Post by **bechelaren** » 03 Mar 2010 23:19

Hí all,
the reason why ZB 60 was not accepted by Czechoslovak army were the unsatiscfactory results of the first samples in 1934. In the same time, the tests of 20 mm Oerlikon turned out positively and Czechoslovak army bought 200 Oerlikons in 1935-36 and considered their production under licence. The main problem of early ZB 60 seems to be ammunition.
New army tests in June 1937 showed somec superiority of ZB 60 over Oerlikon (rate of fire, lower weight, belt feed etc) but still army asked other improvements . By new test in June 1938 a shell exploded in ZB 60 barrel and tests were delayed until August 1938. It is clear tt final weapon was ready too late as Czechoslovak capitulation took place on 30 September 1938. Meanwhile in 1938 Czechoslovak army ordered... two small batches of Oerlikons while first successfull tests were carried out for British Army and Yugoslav Navy

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 29 Nov 2010 21:35

Hello

Here a other picture from Ebay from this gun .

Regards Jos

Dili · Post by **Dili** » 03 Dec 2010 02:37

Anyone knows the split numbers for Yugoslav Royal Navy and Yugoslav Royal Army of those 477?

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 08 Apr 2011 21:56

Hi all,

Another image of a 15mm MG38t on a improvised pedestal

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

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