practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

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practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby ducatim901 » 16 Jul 2006 19:47

Hi look what i found on E-Bay...........





but is it what think...
Greetings Jack
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Postby jopaerya » 16 Jul 2006 19:53

Hi Jack

I know that Kurt has a other photo of this thing .

Regards Jos

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Postby kstdk » 16 Jul 2006 20:22

Hello

Yes...thats right, but i dont know what it is ?

Backside says something about 1938 - and 8,8 cm flak ???

Picture also from E-Bay

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Postby Grzesio » 17 Jul 2006 08:40

Panzeratlas lists two types of heavy turrets for 8,8 cm and 10,5 cm Flak, with no further details except resistance class - maybe it's one of them?!

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Postby ducatim901 » 17 Jul 2006 18:19

No this is not it, Grzesio.
I think it is a sort of practicing device, the pictures i have seen all are from the pre battle period, so i do not think it is one of the two 10.5cm turrets from the Panzeratlas, the ones from the Pa are the ones used in the Flakbatteries, there are two types a "round" one and a "square" one.
However they have similarities, but this could be a coincidence.
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Postby jopaerya » 17 Jul 2006 18:27

Hi All

My first impression was a cover for a V 2
rocketsilo , see the wheels and the tracks :lol:

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Postby Grzesio » 17 Jul 2006 19:09

Ducatim901, sure, I had not seen the second picture then. It looks like a training device indeed.

The turrets I was thinking about were the 720P3 for 8,8 cm Flak, in class B and the 721P3 for 10,5 cm Flak, in class A, not the well known turrets used in naval batteries I believe.
By the way, were they ever built?! As those resistance classes suggest they should be real monsters!

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Postby der bunkermann » 17 Jul 2006 19:17

when you look at the picture it's not a bad design at all,
imagine a flak batterie with 4 or 6 pieces like this , when fliegeralarm sounds you roll em out of the remise's
and after the battle you ''drive'' em safely back in the bunkers :)
the disadvantage are the rails that could easily be damaged, even by schrapnel coming back from the sky.
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Postby jopaerya » 03 Oct 2006 19:21

Hello All

Thanks to Ses on a other Forum , I was looking in
the wrong photomap , no large antenna's but this .
The first phot is taken at Luftwaffe Flak Artillerieschule
Wustrow during a visit from A.H.

Photo 1 = http://historical-media.com/
Photo 2 = Kurt Stigaard

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Postby jopaerya » 04 Jun 2007 19:03

Hi

Here a other picture of a same thing , according to the picture Munich .

Photo = Ebay.usa

Regards Jos
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Postby Luchtkastelen 40-45 » 04 Jun 2007 21:58

So it's an armoured shelter to protect a piece of heavy Flak? Seems to me that the two halves of the shell could be separated and railed aside to get the gun uncovered and operational.
Jos, did the US-Ebay foto contain info on when and by whom it was taken? Could the English caption indicate that it was taken after the war by a US soldier? If so, it would be not just a prewar prototype, but an operational device(?)

Rgds, René

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Postby Bo2 » 05 Jun 2007 05:03

Bonjour
I am not sure to understand all of what you talk, but a question: on the last photo, where are the barrels of the guns ? under cover, inside concrete ?
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Postby AvB » 05 Jun 2007 09:54

I think what René tries to explain. The shelter could open up like a mouth and 'eat' a 8.8 so it would be under protection.
It drove a couple of meters, the gun would be set in place, and the shelter would be driven back.

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Postby jopaerya » 05 Jun 2007 13:14

Hello All

The theory sound very plausebel on the photo from Kurt you
can see that the top of the armeroured shelter could rotate with
the gun inside , also the concrete road are ruuning trough .

The caption on the photo that this was Airfield in Munich ( Munchen )

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Postby ducatim901 » 05 Jun 2007 15:06

What if it is a practicingturret, it could be used by more then one type of AA guns, if you want to practice another gun just ride the turm out of each other and than put in a different gun...........
Any other wild guesses??
Greetings JK.


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