practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Sturm78 » 25 Feb 2010 22:30

Hi all,

I found this interesting image on Ebay. I think it is a Flakturm with a 8.8cm Flak during a visit of Hitler.


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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby jopaerya » 25 Feb 2010 22:34

Hi Sturm78

What a beauty 8O 8O 8O

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Manuferey » 25 Feb 2010 23:30

Isn't it Göring next to H.?

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby jopaerya » 26 Feb 2010 20:02

Hello Emmanuel

You could be right it's hard to see .

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Andrzej Ditrich » 16 Apr 2010 22:26

Hello,
this foto was bid up to 208EUR-never expected that it could reach that level...
wonder who was the lucky one :)

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Manuferey » 17 Apr 2010 02:18

There is a handwritten comment on the back of the last picture. It reads something like"Truppenübungsplatz - Wustrow (?) - ??? - Panzerturm".

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Andrzej Ditrich » 17 Apr 2010 02:47

Confirming: Wustrow :) Except airfield in Munchen it's second place where that wonders existed

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby peeved » 23 May 2010 20:59

From eBay.de.

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Andrzej Ditrich » 24 May 2010 00:39

Nice detailed views :) thanks for sharing.
I have unconfirmed trace that this armor was called: Schutzschild.
Such word is painted on the a kind a short manual painted on vertical plate.

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby TH » 24 May 2010 01:40

Schutzschild (= protective shield) is just a general term, as in Flak unter Deckenschutzschild.
Although I'm not sure there was a more specific term, it's just not special to this practice device.

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Andrzej Ditrich » 24 May 2010 02:08

I'm sorry :( - after some digital work it turned out to be Schutzstand
But agree with TH-it's very common term.
Anyway I feel like child in the fog so any trace is good in my private investigation.

Note the the way how one of two halfs were moved away with the help of crank.
Am I right but: can those 2 halfs could be moved away only from outside?

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby jopaerya » 24 May 2010 13:37

Hello

There are 2 panzerdrehturme for 8.8. cm and 10.5 cm Flak maybe
there is some connection with the photo's we have seen here .

720P03 Panzerdrehturm für 8,8cm Flak "B"
721P03 Panzerdrehturm für 10,5cm Flak "A"

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby TH » 24 May 2010 18:56

Nice close-up of the instruction text @ndrew.
That's what i read:

Schutzstand auseinander [???]
wenn alle Zurrungen ge[löst?]
sowie Zieleinrichtung[?] S[???]
apparat vom Geschütz ge[???]

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Andrzej Ditrich » 24 May 2010 19:11

Thank You Gents for additional information-we're sticking everything together and will see in future.
This thing came out quite late, has anyone of You meet a paper describing production of this armoured parts?
They were delivered for sure so they must some papers...I wish to see plan of it.
Do you think it has exhaust system of ventilation?
There are some featutures on the top which could be covers for electric motor.

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Re: practicing with 8,8/10.5cm Flak im turm

Postby Clive Mortimore » 24 May 2010 19:43

Where the guns operational from inside the turret or were they for cover/protection of the gun? The reasons I ask firstly they seem quite small inside, confirmed by the photo with little Austrian corporal :) Seriously the room inside does look cramped for the standard nine man crew of an 8.8 cm Flak. I can see that the top could be rotated, it appears to be in a different alinment in some photos, how was it traversed. If linked with the gun traverse system it possibly would have been too heavy to turn by hand at a speed ideal for a Flak gun. Was there another traverse system and the manual one disconected when under the cover?

Another observation, I hope they have wiped their muddy boots before treading on the carpet. :)
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